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    Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Here is one for some crappy third party SMTP server, again, just examples of historical, well known SMTP attack vectors that have been found, and closed.

      https://www.symantec.com/security_response/attacksignatures/detail.jsp?asid=24780

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        Carnival Boy
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        I need an example that's not from 2004!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
          last edited by

          @Carnival-Boy said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

          I need an example that's not from 2004!

          Why? If you know what the vector is, you know that the age of the example can't matter.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Or do you believe that the entire concept of hacking has been solved and doesn't exist today?

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              Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

              Or do you believe that the entire concept of hacking has been solved and doesn't exist today?

              Oh, just forget it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                Or do you believe that the entire concept of hacking has been solved and doesn't exist today?

                Oh, just forget it.

                Okay, so we've established, it's important to have proxies in front of services for good security and SMTP is a common, well known attack vector that is easily mitigated and even MS recommends this for exactly that reason. Moving on...

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Same reason we always have something like Nginx sitting in front of less battle tested servers like Node.js system calls. Nearly zero effort for a massive increase in stability and security. Things work without doing it, but it's considered the standard implementation pattern and approach.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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                    @Carnival-Boy said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                    Or do you believe that the entire concept of hacking has been solved and doesn't exist today?

                    Oh, just forget it.

                    There's nothing to forget.

                    If you want security in depth, you need not only the security provided in Exchange, you also put a SMTP proxy in front to get another layer.

                    The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                      I also have a reverse proxy in front of Exchange for ActiveSync and OWA.

                      What do you use for a reverse proxy?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                        The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                        Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                          @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                          I also have a reverse proxy in front of Exchange for ActiveSync and OWA.

                          What do you use for a reverse proxy?

                          His is ancient. ISA

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                            @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                            The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                            Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

                            You cannot put Nginx in front of Exchange for free.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                              @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                              I also have a reverse proxy in front of Exchange for ActiveSync and OWA.

                              What do you use for a reverse proxy?

                              His is ancient. ISA

                              Wow, when did they end that? 2006? I can't remember the last version number, but it was some time ago.

                              I used it a lot back when it was Proxy Server 2.0!!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                                Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

                                You cannot put Nginx in front of Exchange for free.

                                What feature from the paid version is needed?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                  @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                  The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                                  Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

                                  You cannot put Nginx in front of Exchange for free.

                                  What feature from the paid version is needed?

                                  I do not recall the name of the feature, but i had a thread on the subject on here 2 years ago.

                                  Because I tried to put Nginx in front.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                    @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                    The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                                    Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

                                    You cannot put Nginx in front of Exchange for free.

                                    What feature from the paid version is needed?

                                    I do not recall the name of the feature, but i had a thread on the subject on here 2 years ago.

                                    Because I tried to put Nginx in front.

                                    Have you tried this recent guide?

                                    http://blog.adamjoshuasmith.com/deploying-exchange-2016-behind-nginx-free/

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      @Dashrender said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                      The same goes for normal port 80/443 stuff. The default settings of Exchange's implementation on IIS is by some considered lax. Install a much more locked down HTML proxy in front of it that prevents specific commands not needed by Exchange, plus a web server that has different flaws than Exchange IIS has, and you've again created a defense in depth.

                                      Exactly, put Nginx in front of OWA, as an example, and the degree to which it is harder to try to brute force an attack on OWA is extreme. Plus it can make HTTP Header handling more flexible.

                                      You cannot put Nginx in front of Exchange for free.

                                      What feature from the paid version is needed?

                                      I do not recall the name of the feature, but i had a thread on the subject on here 2 years ago.

                                      Because I tried to put Nginx in front.

                                      Have you tried this recent guide?

                                      http://blog.adamjoshuasmith.com/deploying-exchange-2016-behind-nginx-free/

                                      It relies on Nginx Extras and requires a Debian proxy.

                                      I found this back in December in this thread: https://www.mangolassi.it/topic/7184/problems-with-exchange-2010-and-nginx-reverse-proxy/18

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        I never did get time to try it, I guess I should. I just hate relying on Ubuntu.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                          I never did get time to try it, I guess I should. I just hate relying on Ubuntu.

                                          Probably works elsewhere. I don't have any on prem Exchange to test on.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Installing VPN access on Windows Server 2016:

                                            I never did get time to try it, I guess I should. I just hate relying on Ubuntu.

                                            Probably works elsewhere. I don't have any on prem Exchange to test on.

                                            I have two. One Exchange 2010 and one Exchange 2013. So I guess I need to just download 17.03 and spin up a VM at each site.

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