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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Just about to head to the conference hall for breakfast.

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      • dafyreD
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        Finally back to the office... Was AFK all day yesterday for Field day with the kiddo.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          Breakfast was good. I'm in the morning general session now.

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          • wirestyle22W
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            Am I crazy for being weird about crowdfunded products related to power or charging of any kind? I just don't trust randoms with the charging of my devices etc. Maybe i'm being paranoid.

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            • RojoLocoR
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              RIP Chris Cornell 😞 Way too young.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @RojoLoco
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                @RojoLoco What shitty day

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Am I crazy for being weird about crowdfunded products related to power or charging of any kind? I just don't trust randoms with the charging of my devices etc. Maybe i'm being paranoid.

                  huh - I've seen bad power stuff come from everywhere. Why should crowdfunded stuff be any better or worse? If they want to keep the company alive after the initial project, that only happens if they have good success.

                  Now, all that said, it's clear that many aren't listening to the correct specs for USB C, just look at all the bad reviews that Google guy is doing on Amazon. https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Am I crazy for being weird about crowdfunded products related to power or charging of any kind? I just don't trust randoms with the charging of my devices etc. Maybe i'm being paranoid.

                    huh - I've seen bad power stuff come from everywhere. Why should crowdfunded stuff be any better or worse? If they want to keep the company alive after the initial project, that only happens if they have good success.

                    Now, all that said, it's clear that many aren't listening to the correct specs for USB C, just look at all the bad reviews that Google guy is doing on Amazon. https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung

                    Yeah that's true.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @RojoLoco
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                      @RojoLoco Possible suicide apparently fyi

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1996170-pay-to-get-an-msp-estimate

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @RojoLoco Possible suicide apparently fyi

                          Now I'm extra sad.

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                          • nadnerBN
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                            Decommissioned a site today. Just three computers in an office.
                            It was more of a convenience to a few staff than it was a necessity.

                            Nice day for a drive.
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                            • EddieJenningsE
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                              Having to remind myself I can only fix one thing at a time.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1996170-pay-to-get-an-msp-estimate

                                I'm wondering if the OP in that thread only wanted time and parts costs - ITSP stuff, not MSP stuff. i.e. it's broke, please come out and bill me hourly until it's fixed.

                                Of course he muddied the waters by saying he got quotes from other places that say they charge X per machine per month for support.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1996170-pay-to-get-an-msp-estimate

                                  I'm wondering if the OP in that thread only wanted time and parts costs - ITSP stuff, not MSP stuff. i.e. it's broke, please come out and bill me hourly until it's fixed.

                                  Of course he muddied the waters by saying he got quotes from other places that say they charge X per machine per month for support.

                                  Yeah, I think he's learning, though. Figuring out that he's had a VAR taking advantage of him is a big learning piece.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1996170-pay-to-get-an-msp-estimate

                                    I'm wondering if the OP in that thread only wanted time and parts costs - ITSP stuff, not MSP stuff. i.e. it's broke, please come out and bill me hourly until it's fixed.

                                    Of course he muddied the waters by saying he got quotes from other places that say they charge X per machine per month for support.

                                    Yeah, I think he's learning, though. Figuring out that he's had a VAR taking advantage of him is a big learning piece.

                                    He still has to get management over that hump.

                                    I liked his comment about the three different companies and being out $1500. Of course that's the wrong way to look at it - because hopefully you didn't go into it trying to find the cheapest, but instead hiring different companies to see different proposed solutions to the problem. And since they are doing IT work, you need to pay them.

                                    I've heard before about companies wanting a building built will hire multiple architect firms to all make plans. I have to assume they paid them all some amount to do that work?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1996170-pay-to-get-an-msp-estimate

                                      I'm wondering if the OP in that thread only wanted time and parts costs - ITSP stuff, not MSP stuff. i.e. it's broke, please come out and bill me hourly until it's fixed.

                                      Of course he muddied the waters by saying he got quotes from other places that say they charge X per machine per month for support.

                                      Yeah, I think he's learning, though. Figuring out that he's had a VAR taking advantage of him is a big learning piece.

                                      He still has to get management over that hump.

                                      I liked his comment about the three different companies and being out $1500. Of course that's the wrong way to look at it - because hopefully you didn't go into it trying to find the cheapest, but instead hiring different companies to see different proposed solutions to the problem. And since they are doing IT work, you need to pay them.

                                      I've heard before about companies wanting a building built will hire multiple architect firms to all make plans. I have to assume they paid them all some amount to do that work?

                                      Yes, buying three building designs you pay for that. Then pay a lot more to the "winner." Often the firms doing the designs are not the ones doing the final building, either.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        because hopefully you didn't go into it trying to find the cheapest, but instead hiring different companies to see different proposed solutions to the problem.

                                        This is always the challenge. For me, the directive is often hidden in the form of "I want you to find the best for the cheapest," which usually means "find the cheapest, and if it sort of fits our needs and is 'significantly' cheaper than the best, then do it"

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          because hopefully you didn't go into it trying to find the cheapest, but instead hiring different companies to see different proposed solutions to the problem.

                                          This is always the challenge. For me, the directive is often hidden in the form of "I want you to find the best for the cheapest," which usually means "find the cheapest, and if it sort of fits our needs and is 'significantly' cheaper than the best, then do it"

                                          Our job is to keep those other options away from their eyes. Sadly, so so many things in the SMB space that's rather difficult. In SMB we're mostly looking at PCs and firewalls and Wireless APs, etc. They can see the prices down at Best Buy all day long - so they thing their business stuff should cost the pennies that crap does.

                                          Now luckily with Ubiquiti, we now have networking gear that is in line price wise with that, but I get the "Why can't we just use $300 PC from Best Buy" all the time. It's normally followed by, I've been using a Best Buy computer at home for the past 5 years, there's nothing wrong with it..

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                                            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            because hopefully you didn't go into it trying to find the cheapest, but instead hiring different companies to see different proposed solutions to the problem.

                                            This is always the challenge. For me, the directive is often hidden in the form of "I want you to find the best for the cheapest," which usually means "find the cheapest, and if it sort of fits our needs and is 'significantly' cheaper than the best, then do it"

                                            You can distill this to "don't invest in the business, overall profits are not a goal."

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