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    Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device

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    • NashBrydgesN
      NashBrydges @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

      @NashBrydges said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

      @Minion-Queen Always had my equipment shipped so that if they billed me tarifs, I could go back to the shipper for a refund.

      Americans can't do that. Only works on your side.

      That may be true. Sucks.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Maybe the point is that Canadian customs are corrupt and pocketing the money, that's fine. But it doesn't change how the system works. You can't do a lot of things in a lot of countries without those kinds of problems. Just a cost that has to be factored in.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller

          I think that's a good base hardware design for a backup/DR build, in the SMB space.

          No matter what you decide to load on there as far as backup software, etc... it will work out great for the majority of SMB space.

          Even in my case, with my current project going on, that would be usable:

          • Server 2016 Standard on the hardware (because dedup not available on Hyper-V Server)
          • 1 VM running the backup server VM (in my case data protection manager 2016)
          • 1 VM running a replica of SQL server

          So yes, even in a kind of set up like mine, that hardware makes sense. What would make one outgrow it, is needing more storage capacity and/or RAM... but for most SMBs, not an issue. For those like where I am, riding right on the edge, could go either way, but would work to start!

          Nice job on the config!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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            @Tim_G thanks

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              @scottalanmiller Wouldn't adding more memory + StarWind to a setup such as this essentially make it a SAM-HCI ? lol.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                @scottalanmiller Wouldn't adding more memory + StarWind to a setup such as this essentially make it a SAM-HCI ? lol.

                Not the best setup for that, and you'd not want the backup components.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                  @dafyre said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                  @scottalanmiller Wouldn't adding more memory + StarWind to a setup such as this essentially make it a SAM-HCI ? lol.

                  Not the best setup for that, and you'd not want the backup components.

                  Speaking mainly of the hardware.

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                    Broadcom 5720 Quad Port GigE On Board NIC

                    I'm wondering why 4 NIC ports. Is that the standard NIC? With two spindles spinning, could you go beyond 1Gb/s? How many Mb/s can each drive write?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                      @Mike-Davis said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                      With two spindles spinning, could you go beyond 1Gb/s? How many Mb/s can each drive write?

                      130MB/s is very close to a theoretical peak. So 2Gb/s would closely match the full maximum possible write speed of the array and be a bottleneck for reads. However, be aware that those are theoretical maximums, not numbers that the drives will sustain at all.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        That's 130MB/s per drive. So 260MB/s for the array.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1
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                          What's going to be used to manage backups?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                            What's going to be used to manage backups?

                            In this DIY example, anything you like. In a commercial unit that you order from SAM-SD.... Veeam.

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                              Texkonc
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                              Is it backups or a DR appliance that you can run your vms on in a seconds notice. Post states backups but titling the device DR.

                              Which is it? Backups as in Unitrends appliance type backup or DR where there is missing replication component and can have your vms up in seconds?

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis @Texkonc
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                                @Texkonc said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                                Is it backups or a DR appliance that you can run your vms on in a seconds notice. Post states backups but titling the device DR.
                                Which is it? Backups as in Unitrends appliance type backup or DR where there is missing replication component and can have your vms up in seconds?

                                That's more a function of the software than the hardware. Veeam takes dumb storage and turns your forever incremental "backups" in to a point in time recovery point that you can mount for an instant recovery. (I never thought I would put that many marketing terms in one sentence. That kind of hurt.)

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666
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                                  UK suppliers recommended?
                                  Funny you should mention these as my next project after the MPLS goes in is backups/DR and DR local and remote

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                    @hobbit666 said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                                    UK suppliers recommended?
                                    Funny you should mention these as my next project after the MPLS goes in is backups/DR and DR local and remote

                                    You want parts or the real deal with support? Hammer is our enterprise supplier in EU. Full SAM-DR is available now. But it is R330 in Europe not the R320 like in the US.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Texkonc
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                                      @Texkonc said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                                      Is it backups or a DR appliance that you can run your vms on in a seconds notice. Post states backups but titling the device DR.

                                      Which is it? Backups as in Unitrends appliance type backup or DR where there is missing replication component and can have your vms up in seconds?

                                      Both. This would have Hyper-V on it. Or VMware if you wanted, and you could restore locally if needed.

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                                      • matteo nunziatiM
                                        matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller just a question (sw not hw) why veeam rather than say.. altaro. Just curious!

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @matteo nunziati
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                                          @matteo-nunziati said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                                          @scottalanmiller just a question (sw not hw) why veeam rather than say.. altaro. Just curious!

                                          There is no backup software on this device. It is a storage target. One assumes that @scottalanmiller will be using some base OS that lets you setup basically any type of connectivity.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                                            @matteo-nunziati said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

                                            @scottalanmiller just a question (sw not hw) why veeam rather than say.. altaro. Just curious!

                                            As @JaredBusch mentioned, this is purely a hardware spec specifically in this thread. So you can load anything on it that you would like.

                                            As to why Veeam on the official SAM-DR appliance? A couple key of reasons...

                                            • It's what most people demand when asking for backup solutions.
                                            • Veeam offers both agent and agentless options so it works against nearly all environments, not just limited to VMware and Hyper-V agentless backups.
                                            • It's an awesome product.
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