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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @RojoLoco
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      @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      ~On the road again...~

      He's constantly on the road, I can't imagine he actually spends time at client sights, I think he just drives in circles on the highway to make it look like he's being productive. . . . .

      I'm not a NASCAR driver I don't get paid to drive in circles.

      Then why does your picture look like you're about to make another right turn? Ha ha.

      Somebody take away your southerner card. NASCAR only turns left dumbass.

      Yeah but @RojoLoco drinks inhumanly strong coffee. It's crazy.

      Most coffee people consider strong is the dark stuff, which has less caffeine than a light roast, and considerably less than that cold brew @RojoLoco makes. Take it from me, you don't want to drink much more than an expresso cup worth of that stuff at once, I was awake most of a weekend when I made my first batch.

      Hrm, might be just the thing for MangoCon!

      Agreed, someone in Rochester should start a batch the week before the con, I'm sure a gallon or two would supply all of us with sufficient caffeine.

      If my schedule works out I can bring a gallon.

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      • GreyG
        Grey @Reid Cooper
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        @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

        To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          ~On the road again...~

          He's constantly on the road, I can't imagine he actually spends time at client sights, I think he just drives in circles on the highway to make it look like he's being productive. . . . .

          I'm not a NASCAR driver I don't get paid to drive in circles.

          Then why does your picture look like you're about to make another right turn? Ha ha.

          Somebody take away your southerner card. NASCAR only turns left dumbass.

          Yeah but @RojoLoco drinks inhumanly strong coffee. It's crazy.

          Most coffee people consider strong is the dark stuff, which has less caffeine than a light roast, and considerably less than that cold brew @RojoLoco makes. Take it from me, you don't want to drink much more than an expresso cup worth of that stuff at once, I was awake most of a weekend when I made my first batch.

          Hrm, might be just the thing for MangoCon!

          Agreed, someone in Rochester should start a batch the week before the con, I'm sure a gallon or two would supply all of us with sufficient caffeine.

          If my schedule works out I can bring a gallon.

          We'll all be cold brew cracked out!!!

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          • momurdaM
            momurda
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            Leaving early to go to Mariners Opening Day 2017.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @momurda
              last edited by

              @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Leaving early to go to Mariners Opening Day 2017.

              Have fun.

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              • Reid CooperR
                Reid Cooper @Grey
                last edited by

                @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @Reid Cooper
                  last edited by

                  @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                  To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                  Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                  At that speed, you might get some savings during rush hour...

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                  • GreyG
                    Grey @Reid Cooper
                    last edited by

                    @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                    To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                    Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                    I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                    I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Grey
                      last edited by

                      @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                      To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                      Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                      I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                      I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                      We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                      The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                        To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                        Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                        At that speed, you might get some savings during rush hour...

                        Not in Texas, rush hour next goes that slowly. It might stop, but once the cars move, you move.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                          To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                          Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                          At that speed, you might get some savings during rush hour...

                          Not in Texas, rush hour next goes that slowly. It might stop, but once the cars move, you move.

                          If only Atlanta was like that, lol.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Getting ready to catch an Uber and go out for dinner with Max that some of you know from MangoCon. We are hitting a Georgian place.

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                            • GreyG
                              Grey @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                              To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                              Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                              I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                              I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                              We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                              The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                              https://www.voltstats.net/
                              Data is pulled from OnStar. I have no idea how people are driving to be 100% EV on the leaderboard, but it seems to be possible!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Grey
                                last edited by

                                @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                                To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                                Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                                I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                                I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                                We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                                The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                                https://www.voltstats.net/
                                Data is pulled from OnStar. I have no idea how people are driving to be 100% EV on the leaderboard, but it seems to be possible!

                                Might be fake data. They wouldn't sell us a car that would ever drive electric no matter what we did.

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                                • GreyG
                                  Grey @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                                  To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                                  Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                                  I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                                  I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                                  We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                                  The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                                  https://www.voltstats.net/
                                  Data is pulled from OnStar. I have no idea how people are driving to be 100% EV on the leaderboard, but it seems to be possible!

                                  Might be fake data. They wouldn't sell us a car that would ever drive electric no matter what we did.

                                  https://img.memesuper.com/61526934dc314c268fc3d67606f7d2a3_-net-meme-fake-news-fake-meme-fake-news_400-304.jpeg

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco
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                                    Really slow around here today.....

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                                    ^^ Been seeing this for a while now. Cue tumbleweeds.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                                      To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                                      Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                                      I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                                      I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                                      We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                                      The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                                      Are you sure you are not confusing the Chevy Volt with the Toyota Prius?
                                      What you are describing is the Toyota Hybrid model.
                                      On the other hand, Honda never even tried to fake people like Toyota did. Their hybrid models are purely integrated motor assist. The battery helps the motor, which is primary.

                                      My understanding of the Volt was that there was no direct linkage form the gas engine to the drive train. The gas engine only powered an electric motor. So it is more appropriate to call that engine a generator in simple terms.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                                        To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                                        Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                                        I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                                        I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                                        We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                                        The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                                        Are you sure you are not confusing the Chevy Volt with the Toyota Prius?
                                        What you are describing is the Toyota Hybrid model.
                                        On the other hand, Honda never even tried to fake people like Toyota did. Their hybrid models are purely integrated motor assist. The battery helps the motor, which is primary.

                                        My understanding of the Volt was that there was no direct linkage form the gas engine to the drive train. The gas engine only powered an electric motor. So it is more appropriate to call that engine a generator in simple terms.

                                        It was definitely the Volt. And I know it is not direct drive, it's just "always" running. It's great for like stop and go traffic issues. But not good for my use case back then. I thought it was like @Grey had deceived too and someone showed me the specs. Then I looked into it and at lest the model back then was essentially gas power with electric transmission. Which is fine, but I just wanted electric. And it was so gas dependent that for me it would be on gas all times.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Reid-Cooper said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          And then the Volt didn't even end up being electric. Volt, Spark, they tried really had to make people think that they were electric.

                                          To be fair, the engine and drivetrain are electric. There's a serialized gas engine that runs to supply electricity to the engine when the batteries run dry. It's more electric than a Prius, which is one of the worst cars on the road.

                                          Kind of but the engine turns on for basically all driving. Anything over 25 mph or something crazy like that it is on gas all of the time.

                                          I think that's more about the amp draw. If you're a lead-foot, then it needs more juice to meet demand. If you try to hypermile it, then I bet you'd be able to commute without ever touching your gas tank. Conversely, a prius will always use fuel in every commute. Do you have a Volt? Maybe Turo has one to rent?

                                          I spent a lot of time researching them and was close to getting one except that I already have a sedan and don't need another, though I did need a truck with 4wd for winter commuting and I did buy that in November. Once my motorcycle is out of the shop (annual maintenance), I'll be back on that for my primary commute.

                                          We looked at the Volt when I lived in Texas. And what we found was that because they had hard speed limits like @Reid-Cooper mentioned, no matter how light on the "gas" you are (and I'm insanely light, I beat the fuel economy rating on any car I drive, by huge amounts) it goes to the gas engine at a speed so low that basically you hit it the second you are out of the driveway. It might be pure electric while you are parking, but no actual driving activity will it be electric. We were quite serious about getting one and realized that the electric nature of it was a total farce.

                                          The gas mileage on the thing might be really great. But it was anything but an electric car.

                                          Are you sure you are not confusing the Chevy Volt with the Toyota Prius?
                                          What you are describing is the Toyota Hybrid model.
                                          On the other hand, Honda never even tried to fake people like Toyota did. Their hybrid models are purely integrated motor assist. The battery helps the motor, which is primary.

                                          My understanding of the Volt was that there was no direct linkage form the gas engine to the drive train. The gas engine only powered an electric motor. So it is more appropriate to call that engine a generator in simple terms.

                                          It was definitely the Volt. And I know it is not direct drive, it's just "always" running. It's great for like stop and go traffic issues. But not good for my use case back then. I thought it was like @Grey had deceived too and someone showed me the specs. Then I looked into it and at lest the model back then was essentially gas power with electric transmission. Which is fine, but I just wanted electric. And it was so gas dependent that for me it would be on gas all times.

                                          Ok, I understand you now. Yes it is essentially fully gas powered unless you drive less than 50 miles. I knew this when it was released. But then I had a friend that bought one of the first Honda Insight Hybrids back in like 2001. Ugly ass 2 seater car and he bought the ungliest puke green color, but he was still driving it and getting 50mpg in 2014.

                                          And I owned a 2005 Honda Civic hybrid. I was well aware of the details behind the marketing.

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @RojoLoco
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                                            @RojoLoco I just ended a busy Monday but yeah so I can say I didn't post much here.

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