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    Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012

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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
      last edited by

      And:

      Let me roll it back and see.

      I didn't pick this server, it's actually a brand new server that another company sold them. I'd never have put them in this server but it's what I have to work with at this moment.

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      • mlnewsM
        mlnews
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        And:

        It's actually the 256 MB (G200eW) version. Putting it at the lowest resolution didn't work.
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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews
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          It's a PowerEdge T110 II if that helps.

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          • mlnewsM
            mlnews
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            Safe mode does the same thing unfortunately.

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
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              Direct on the box and/or RDP. Same either way.

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
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                And:

                It's Server 2012 Essentials and this happens at the console (local k/b, video, mouse) even after uninstall of remote software (teamviewer and screenconnect), as well as uninstall of SolarWinds MSP (LogicNow RMM) monitoring, AV, and web filter.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  What is the server used for? I'm assuming that at least PowerShell works so that it is still usable in the meantime?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    I guess that it is possible that the GPU is failing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Might be worth virtualizing just because it needs to be done anyway and it might fix this problem along with it.  Worth a try, anyway.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Try turning the resolution way down.  800x600 or something like that.

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                        • CCWTechC
                          CCWTech
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                          It's their only server (very small business) so it's the DC/DNS/DHCP and application/file server. It's a pretty basic box but this is happening even when the place is closed so I don't think it's a performance issue. The box wouldn't likely be hearty enough to go VM and isn't very up-gradable.

                          Unfortunately because it's their applications server, their main app they use requires a right click to get into the settings to interact with several of it's features, so this is causing a significant impact. PS won't work with that app.

                          Could be the GPU, but it's only certain things that trigger the problem. Almost all right clicks (if not all) don't work and most left clicks work but not all.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                            @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                            It's their only server (very small business) so it's the DC/DNS/DHCP and application/file server. It's a pretty basic box but this is happening even when the place is closed so I don't think it's a performance issue.

                            I wouldn't think so. If it was it wouldn't be at that point or in that predictable of a way and it's not the kind of error you expect with a performance issue.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                              @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                              The box wouldn't likely be hearty enough to go VM and isn't very up-gradable.

                              Doesn't require anything extra. If there isn't enough power to go VM, there isn't enough power now. It would be completely taxed if virtualization was an issue.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                                @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                Could be the GPU, but it's only certain things that trigger the problem. Almost all right clicks (if not all) don't work and most left clicks work but not all.

                                That actually suggests GPU. GPUs failing like this will often fail on certain system calls, which would only happen from certain applications or actions.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                                  @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                  Unfortunately because it's their applications server, their main app they use requires a right click to get into the settings to interact with several of it's features, so this is causing a significant impact. PS won't work with that app.

                                  Well that sucks. Definitely one of the many downsides to legacy app design. 😞

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                                  • CCWTechC
                                    CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                    @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                    Could be the GPU, but it's only certain things that trigger the problem. Almost all right clicks (if not all) don't work and most left clicks work but not all.

                                    That actually suggests GPU. GPUs failing like this will often fail on certain system calls, which would only happen from certain applications or actions.

                                    It's going to take some convincing to get DELL to replace the system board. Would a different video card be a good test or if the onboard GPU is a problem would it most likely still have an issue because it's still a device on the server?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                                      @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                      @CCWTech said in Blue Screen (not BSOD) when using mouse in Windows Server 2012:

                                      Could be the GPU, but it's only certain things that trigger the problem. Almost all right clicks (if not all) don't work and most left clicks work but not all.

                                      That actually suggests GPU. GPUs failing like this will often fail on certain system calls, which would only happen from certain applications or actions.

                                      It's going to take some convincing to get DELL to replace the system board. Would a different video card be a good test or if the onboard GPU is a problem would it most likely still have an issue because it's still a device on the server?

                                      A different GPU would work fine for a test.

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                                      • CCWTechC
                                        CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller Legacy is right. This is an DB application that still uses delphi and is a flat file database.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
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                                          If you were virtualized, you could just move this workload to a PC to show that it is a hardware or hardware/driver problem and throw it in Dell's lap.

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                                          • CCWTechC
                                            CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Ok, I'll try a different GPU and see what happens.

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