Data Backup solution for Linux servers
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@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
If you have a mix of a lot of servers, or even just a lot of physical servers, I prefer Unitrends over Veeam.
I did not see in your post if anything is physical or virtual, but...
Veeam was designed from the ground up for Virtualized environments (hypervisors and virtual machines). Due to this, you need multiple Veeam products and licenses to cover physical machines in a mixed environment, separate products for Windows physical machines, and another Linux physical machines.
Unitrends does it all from a single point, and supports 200+ OS/Applications/Hypervisors.
This is incorrect information. Veeam Backup and Recovery is for Hypervisors. Veeam Endopint Backup is for individual systems. VEB is also free.
What do you mean my information was incorrect? You just confirmed everything I said...
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I use Relax and Recover.
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@stacksofplates said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
I use Relax and Recover.
Since the OP is using CentOS, this is a great option!
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@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
If you have a mix of a lot of servers, or even just a lot of physical servers, I prefer Unitrends over Veeam.
I did not see in your post if anything is physical or virtual, but...
Veeam was designed from the ground up for Virtualized environments (hypervisors and virtual machines). Due to this, you need multiple Veeam products and licenses to cover physical machines in a mixed environment, separate products for Windows physical machines, and another Linux physical machines.
Unitrends does it all from a single point, and supports 200+ OS/Applications/Hypervisors.
This is incorrect information. Veeam Backup and Recovery is for Hypervisors. Veeam Endopint Backup is for individual systems. VEB is also free.
What do you mean my information was incorrect? You just confirmed everything I said...
You are implying multiple varying pieces of software and licensing schemes.
Veeam has exactly 2 products that we are concerned about here.
- Veeam B&R for the Hypervisor
- VEB for individual systems.
Veeam also has exactly 2 licensing modes that matter.
- Free
- B&R Free is limited in functionality to only full backups, but does work perfectly.
- VEB is free always
- Purchased
- B&R Purchased gives you a lot of good options, but they are only for B&R and his non virtualized systems gain little benefit from this.
For the OP, a Unitrends solution may well be the best solution, especially if they still offer the product free for users with less than 1TB of data to backup.
You have made multiple posts about Unitrends. Unitrends is a great product, but your bias is showing. Other solutions exist and depending on the specific details, may be or worse.
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@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
For the OP, a Unitrends solution may well be the best solution, especially if they still offer the product free for users with less than 1TB of data to backup.
Here's a question - was the free one limited to 1 TB to backup, or 1 TB of backup storage?
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@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
You are implying multiple varying pieces of software and licensing schemes.
Yes, there are multiple (and too many) varying pieces of software and licensing schemes needed in a mixed environment when using Veeam.
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Veeam has exactly 2 products that we are concerned about here.
- Veeam B&R for the Hypervisor
- VEB for individual systems.
I wasn't referring to this specific case when mentioning Veeam's purpose. But here are what typical mixed environments need:
- Veeam B&R for Hypervisors
- VEB for individual systems (NOT SERVERS (and if you do, you shouldn't))
- Veeam Agent for Linux
- Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows
For comparison, here's what you'd need with Unitrends:
- Unitrends backup software (for all servers)
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Veeam also has exactly 2 licensing modes that matter.
- Free
- B&R Free is limited in functionality to only full backups, but does work perfectly.
- VEB is free always
- Purchased
- B&R Purchased gives you a lot of good options, but they are only for B&R and his non virtualized systems gain little benefit from this.
You will need 4 licensing models for a typical mixed environment:
- Free - VEB (because a lot of people do tend to use it with servers, although that's not what it was designed for, and you shouldn't)
- Paid - B&R (for hypervisors - enterprises typically need this in a standard mixed environment)
- Paid - Veeam Agent for Linux (needed for physical Linux servers that are not hypervisors)
- Paid - Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows (needed for physical windows servers that are not hypervisors)
For comparison, here's the licensing you'd need with Unitrends:
- Free - Unitrends Backup (if you have less than 1 TB of data)
- Paid - Unitrends Backup (if you have more than 1 TB of data)
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You have made multiple posts about Unitrends. Unitrends is a great product, but your bias is showing. Other solutions exist and depending on the specific details, may be or worse.
I'm not showing bias. I was presenting a possible solution based on assumptions that were missing from the OP's original post. That, if he did have a mixed environment, Unitrends comes to mind first as (one of many) good solutions worth considering. I only mentioned the Veeam thing because that seems to be the knee-jerk reaction when back up or replication is mentioned, typically without any thought going into it. I was just trying to prevent that.
Then the OP mentioned he was just looking for open sources backup for only his Linux machines. That flushes Unitrends down the toilet, where I then mentioned some backup software more specific to his needs.
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@sreekumarpg
The only thing that hasn't a custom file format is plain rsync/rsnapshot of course. Compressed Tar itself is a "file format".Rsync can preserve hard link, of corse: I think the option is "-H", but man is your friend.
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@sreekumarpg said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
Hello All,
I am looking for a Linux backup solution for our development servers. The requirement is to backup the linux data to local Synology NAS and then do a local Synology NAS to remote Synology NAS replication. We have tried the rsnapshot and rsnyc but rsnyc is not perserving hardlinks.
Configuration[Server]/data folder ----> rsnapshot to local /backup drive -------> rsnyc to local Synology NAS.
Now we are looking for a general backup solutions for all Linux servers. The backup requirements are
- Daily Incremental backup
- Weekly Full backup
- Monthly Full backup
- Can set Retention period for all backups tasks
- Able to restore on day/week/month wise
- if possible not have custom backup file extention
- Event alert
There are many FLOSS software that can fulfill your requirements… I'll try to make a selection:
- Attic/Borg: python rolling deduplication, very simple to use and extremely simple, sort of evolution of the holy Obnam.
- UrBackup: offer commercial support only if you want, nice interface, great features, solid. The choice for SMB, like BackupPc.
- Bacula: VERY enterprisey, has every imaginable feature (more than any proprietary product I'm aware of), complex to setup and extremely powerful. Completely FLOSS like the other, offer enterprise support, is widespread in big company. The commercial version also offer a module to backup KVM, VMware ecc in a VM-aware (agentless) fashion, but I've never used the paid one.
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@Francesco-Provino said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
rsion also offer a module to backup KVM, VMware ecc in
Thanks for the information. I will be testing these solution and will update the result
Thanks all for the valuable advice
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@sreekumarpg said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
Not yet as am looking for a file level backup solution and also if possible an opensource
Hi, biased Veeam user incoming
Stumlbed at your post and just want to keep things as short as possible.
Veeam Agent for Linux:
Daily Incremental backup - CHECK
Weekly Full backup - nope, however you can leverage scripts to trigger full
Monthly Full backup - nope, the same as with weekly
Can set Retention period for all backups tasks - CHECK
Able to restore on day/week/month wise - CHECK
If possible not have custom backup file extention - nope
Event alert - not out from the box, though post-job script will let you to schedule whatever you want to happen after the job is done.
File-level backup - CHECK (masks are applicable as well)
Unmount NAS directory after backup (security measure) - CHECK
Open-source - kernel module is licensed under GPLv2, CHECK.
CentOS 7 support - CHECK
Free fully fucntional version - CHECK
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@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
You will need 4 licensing models for a typical mixed environment:
Free - VEB (because a lot of people do tend to use it with servers, although that's not what it was designed for, and you shouldn't)
Paid - B&R (for hypervisors - enterprises typically need this in a standard mixed environment)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Linux (needed for physical Linux servers that are not hypervisors)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows (needed for physical windows servers that are not hypervisors)You, Sir, are making wrong statements
1.B&R - offers a Free version that lets you backup VMs.
2.Veeam Agent for Linux - has fully functional free version
3.Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows - not even released yet and will offer free version as well. -
@Dashrender said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
For the OP, a Unitrends solution may well be the best solution, especially if they still offer the product free for users with less than 1TB of data to backup.
Here's a question - was the free one limited to 1 TB to backup, or 1 TB of backup storage?
I never found that out too and want to know as it might be a good solution for one of my remote sites
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@hobbit666 said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@Dashrender said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@JaredBusch said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
For the OP, a Unitrends solution may well be the best solution, especially if they still offer the product free for users with less than 1TB of data to backup.
Here's a question - was the free one limited to 1 TB to backup, or 1 TB of backup storage?
I never found that out too and want to know as it might be a good solution for one of my remote sites
My understanding was backup as multiple versions can, of course, make you hit 1TB very easily.
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@theOtherGuy said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
You will need 4 licensing models for a typical mixed environment:
Free - VEB (because a lot of people do tend to use it with servers, although that's not what it was designed for, and you shouldn't)
Paid - B&R (for hypervisors - enterprises typically need this in a standard mixed environment)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Linux (needed for physical Linux servers that are not hypervisors)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows (needed for physical windows servers that are not hypervisors)You, Sir, are making wrong statements
1.B&R - offers a Free version that lets you backup VMs.
2.Veeam Agent for Linux - has fully functional free version
3.Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows - not even released yet and will offer free version as well.Okay... so then you'll be stuck with 4 separate free products... my point still remains the same. I think like 99% of all backup solutions have a free version. But at least with Unitrends (and many others), you'd only need a single free product. With Veeam, you'd need maybe 4 separate ones. Whether it's free or paid wasn't the point.
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@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@theOtherGuy said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
@Tim_G said in Data Backup solution for Linux servers:
You will need 4 licensing models for a typical mixed environment:
Free - VEB (because a lot of people do tend to use it with servers, although that's not what it was designed for, and you shouldn't)
Paid - B&R (for hypervisors - enterprises typically need this in a standard mixed environment)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Linux (needed for physical Linux servers that are not hypervisors)
Paid - Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows (needed for physical windows servers that are not hypervisors)You, Sir, are making wrong statements
1.B&R - offers a Free version that lets you backup VMs.
2.Veeam Agent for Linux - has fully functional free version
3.Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows - not even released yet and will offer free version as well.Okay... so then you'll be stuck with 4 separate free products... my point still remains the same. I think like 99% of all backup solutions have a free version. But at least with Unitrends (and many others), you'd only need a single free product. With Veeam, you'd need maybe 4 separate ones. Whether it's free or paid wasn't the point.
As a Veeam user, you may be right in that they are 4 different products. However, the VEB and agents all integrate with B&R. There is a caveat to this. You can monitor the VEB's in B&R, but cannot make any changes to the settings themselves. All you can do to the VEB's is just restrict who can make backups and who doesn't. You won't be able to make changes to frequency or times, etc.
