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    • momurdaM
      momurda @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch
      Ah, lots of stuff going on must have missed that one.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

        @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

        @Dashrender Cant you just use an external usb drive?

        Well that will take forever... I'd honestly just dig up 6 old hard drives that are the same, and create a temp file server.

        For something not critical use freenas.

        LOL - freenas - really?

        Lots of assumptions here -

        1. I have six drives lying around
        2. those six drives would be large enough to give me the needed space
        3. I have a PC with 6 of the needed ports

        And since I don't have 1, I can't have 2, and I don't have 3 either, so this is a giant no go.

        If I was going to try this type of route, I would install install ubuntu or CentOS and just create a giant partition and share it SMB. no FreeNAS needed.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @momurda
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          @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

          @JaredBusch
          Ah, lots of stuff going on must have missed that one.

          He did not post the commands though, +1 for that. @Dashrender needs all the help he can get at this point, because he is in stubborn mode.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

            @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

            I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

            I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

            What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

              @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

              @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

              I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

              I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

              What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

              Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

                I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

                I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

                What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

                Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                TIL

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @momurda
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                  @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                  Startup Repair should be tried as it is probably the quickest thing to try and has worked for me.
                  or you can do
                  bootrec /scanos (will try and find the windows partition of unbootable windows)

                  Can't find OS
                  https://i.imgur.com/OVsFJ06.png

                  Here is the dir contents - I know this is my boot/system partition
                  https://i.imgur.com/h2t1NWS.png

                  bootrec /fixmbr
                  bootrec /fixboot
                  bootrec /rebuildbcd (think that is one)

                  https://i.imgur.com/nHiXF9I.png

                  Still not seeing the install.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                    Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                    Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                      @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                      Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                      Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

                      I can dig out some media if you want me to show screens.

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                      • momurdaM
                        momurda @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender
                        Have you checked that c:\ in recovery console is actually where Windows is? Many times it is not. You also used clonezilla, which may be a fatal mistake for anything you do from this point on until you use xenconvert or try the Windows Backup route.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                          Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

                          I can dig out some media if you want me to show screens.

                          I can build my own test box - but it won't be a real test because I don't have a spare server with RAID controllers to pull an image from. 😞

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @momurda
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                            @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                            @Dashrender
                            Have you checked that c:\ in recovery console is actually where Windows is? Many times it is not. You also used clonezilla, which may be a fatal mistake for anything you do from this point on until you use xenconvert or try the Windows Backup route.

                            Yep as my screen shots above show - πŸ˜„ is where my windows install is.

                            To make things hopefully easier, I have removed the additional drives from the VM so i'm only dealing with the πŸ˜„ drive. i noticed while troubleshooting earlier, that the old 😧 had swapped placed in the diskpart list with πŸ˜„ That is now solved.

                            Here is my current bcdedit /enum
                            https://i.imgur.com/fci9GJz.png

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Why do you think clonezilla might have any blame here? Just wondering?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                I found that Citrix did have a P2V convertor solution, but it became unsupported as of version 6.5 (last supported in 6.2).

                                I also found that there is apparently a new version, but it's a licensed product from Citrix.

                                This is a big gripe I've had with XenServer. Every other player has P2V and V2V tools.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender Because clonezilla works at the block level. And lacks the ability to remove drivers.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                    @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                    I found that Citrix did have a P2V convertor solution, but it became unsupported as of version 6.5 (last supported in 6.2).

                                    I also found that there is apparently a new version, but it's a licensed product from Citrix.

                                    This is a big gripe I've had with XenServer. Every other player has P2V and V2V tools.

                                    There are tools, they just aren't free anymore.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                      @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                      I found that Citrix did have a P2V convertor solution, but it became unsupported as of version 6.5 (last supported in 6.2).

                                      I also found that there is apparently a new version, but it's a licensed product from Citrix.

                                      This is a big gripe I've had with XenServer. Every other player has P2V and V2V tools.

                                      Citrix dropped the tool on purpose. It was an open source tool that worked, but had issues. Plus there is a surplus of available options that work just fine.

                                      Why they decided to close source the tool IDK. Seems odd. But they did.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                        @stacksofplates said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                        @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                        I found that Citrix did have a P2V convertor solution, but it became unsupported as of version 6.5 (last supported in 6.2).

                                        I also found that there is apparently a new version, but it's a licensed product from Citrix.

                                        This is a big gripe I've had with XenServer. Every other player has P2V and V2V tools.

                                        There are tools, they just aren't free anymore.

                                        Where is it? I can't find it anywhere?

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                                        • momurdaM
                                          momurda
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                                          Ive never in my life thought of using clonezilla like you have. I suppose there is nothing wrong with what youve done, i just havent ever done it like that and it seems weird to do so. When you did the Clonezilla, you had to take these servers offline correct? With Xenconvert or even using the esxi p2v program(You dont have to do 2 conversions, just export as ova file in esxi p2v and then import the ova to xen, ova are called Open Virtualization Appliance for a reason, they work with most hypervisors, though it looks like HyperV doesnt?), the servers would be available to users during this process.
                                          However you do need storage space for that. Easiest way is to hook up usb drive to the server you want to p2v, or send the export to shared storage but you say dont have room for that. Hundreds of GB would take a while, but if the services are available while converting it doesnt really matter. That is what i would have tried first, even on XS7. The xenconvert process basically just copies the running server's disks into vhd/ovf files, then uses the temporary transfer vm to import them into XS. They say xenconvert is unsupported, but that doesnt mean 'doesnt work anymore' usually.

                                          File Formats for Virtual Machines
                                          Open Virtualization Format (OVF)
                                          The OVF Specification provides a means of describing the properties of a virtual system. It is XML based and has generous allowances for extensibility (with corresponding tradeoffs in actual portability). Most commonly, an OVF file is used to describe a single virtual machine or virtual appliance. It can contain information about the format of a virtual disk image file as well as a description of the virtual hardware that should be emulated to run the OS or application contained on such a disk image.
                                          Open Virtual Appliance (OVA)
                                          An OVA is an OVF file packaged together with all of its supporting files (disk images, etc.). You can read about the requirements for a valid OVA package in the OVF specification. Oftentimes people will say β€œan OVF” and really mean β€œan OVA.”
                                          
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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda @stacksofplates
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                                            @stacksofplates
                                            I might have old xenconvert somewhere in the darkest depths of a file server.

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