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      CitrixNewbJD @momurda
      last edited by

      @momurda

      Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC. Despite my warnings, because I know that we do not currently have one here, I was told to bring it all down. And here we are. We do not have a physical DC.

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        CitrixNewbJD @momurda
        last edited by

        @momurda

        I've been using the root authentication for everything.

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          CitrixNewbJD @seal
          last edited by

          @seal

          Frank, can we speak on the phone for a minute so I can be sure I can intelligently talk to the guy when demanding his money?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
            last edited by

            @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

            @momurda

            Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC.

            This is absolutely the wrong response. You should never have a physical DC, ever. There is zero issues here with virtualization. There are two problems....

            • Zero AD redundancy
            • An inverted pyramid of doom (single storage for all systems)

            Fixing either of those anti-practices would have saved you. Physical would have zero benefit and is the polar opposite of the reaction that you should have.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
              last edited by

              @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

              @momurda

              I've been using the root authentication for everything.

              So we are safe there.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                More on the IPOD: http://www.smbitjournal.com/2013/06/the-inverted-pyramid-of-doom/

                And in video form from MangoCon:

                Youtube Video

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                  CitrixNewbJD
                  last edited by

                  So, when looking for places to turn off AD integration, I see this...

                  0_1482873847039_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.23.59.png

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    It's not pool integration that is the issue, it's SAN integration. Check the SAN (PowerVault) interface instead.

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                      CitrixNewbJD
                      last edited by

                      @seal Just came across these two items on the SAN interface. Dental_Data, Spindlemedia, are critical and it looks like those VDs failed.

                      PROFILE FOR STORAGE ARRAY: MDS-Spindle01 (12/27/16 3:28:58 PM) 
                       
                       
                      STANDARD VIRTUAL DISKS------------------------------ 
                       
                      SUMMARY 
                       
                         Number of standard virtual disks: 3 
                       
                         See other Virtual Disks sub-tabs for premium feature information. 
                       
                       
                         NAME          STATUS  CAPACITY  RAID LEVEL  DISK GROUP  DRIVE TYPE   
                         Dental_Data   Failed  1.495 TB  5           0           SAS          
                         SpindleMedia  Failed  2.862 TB  5           0           SAS          
                         Virtual       Failed  1.367 TB  5           0           SAS          
                       
                      DETAILS 
                       
                       
                         Virtual Disk name:                      Dental_Data                                       
                                                                                                                   
                            Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                   
                            Capacity:                            1.495 TB                                          
                            Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:7b:78:6a:00:00:04:13:4a:96:70:f3   
                            Subsystem ID (SSID):                 1                                                 
                            Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                            RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                   
                            Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                            Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                   
                            Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                            Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                       
                       
                            Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                            Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                            Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                            Modification priority:                              High       
                       
                       
                            Read cache:                            Enabled    
                            Write cache:                           Enabled    
                               Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                               Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                            Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                            Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                            Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                       
                       
                         Virtual Disk name:                      SpindleMedia                                      
                                                                                                                   
                            Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                   
                            Capacity:                            2.862 TB                                          
                            Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:07:f5:4d:ba:7b:fb   
                            Subsystem ID (SSID):                 2                                                 
                            Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                            RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                   
                            Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                            Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                   
                            Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                            Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                       
                       
                            Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                            Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                            Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                            Modification priority:                              High       
                       
                       
                            Read cache:                            Enabled    
                            Write cache:                           Enabled    
                               Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                               Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                            Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                            Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                            Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                       
                       
                         Virtual Disk name:                      Virtual                                           
                                                                                                                   
                            Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                   
                            Capacity:                            1.367 TB                                          
                            Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:04:31:4a:96:73:09   
                            Subsystem ID (SSID):                 0                                                 
                            Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                            RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                   
                            Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                            Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                   
                            Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                            Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                       
                       
                            Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                            Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                            Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                            Modification priority:                              High       
                       
                       
                            Read cache:                            Enabled    
                            Write cache:                           Enabled    
                               Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                               Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                            Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                            Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                            Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                              
                            Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                      

                      0_1482874726865_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.38.36.png

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Oh look, on top of everything else, they left you with RAID 5, too. Figures. Whoever set this up really set you up for failure.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Your predecessor definitely pulled this on you: https://mangolassi.it/topic/11852/why-it-builds-a-house-of-cards

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Looks like, on top of other problems, the SAN has died. It's hard to tell from this, but it looks like those are the LUNs that hold all of your VMs?

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                            • momurdaM
                              momurda
                              last edited by

                              So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                              Did you lose a RAID Controller?

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                              • NerdyDadN
                                NerdyDad
                                last edited by

                                Dear God I pray that you have backups outside of the environment. Please tell me that you do. Another NAS, tapes, diskettes, something?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @momurda
                                  last edited by

                                  @momurda said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                  So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                                  Did you lose a RAID Controller?

                                  It's a dual controller device. So in theory it should fail over. But in reality, they rarely do.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                                    last edited by

                                    @NerdyDad said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                    Dear God I pray that you have backups outside of the environment. Please tell me that you do. Another NAS, tapes, diskettes, something?

                                    At this point, recovering from backup to a new cluster might be the best way to go. The SAN is worthless if the arrays have failed. And the local servers probably don't have the necessary storage to run without it. If the array is really lost, the old hardware has probably dropped to a zero value level. Time to get something new in and recover to that ASAP.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                      @momurda said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                      So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                                      Did you lose a RAID Controller?

                                      It's a dual controller device. So in theory it should fail over. But in reality, they rarely do.

                                      But if drives are lost, that won't help.

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                                      • sealS
                                        seal
                                        last edited by

                                        Isn't this saying the virtual drives for each failed? This should be different than a physical drive failure, right? Or am I reading something wrong?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                          @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                          @momurda

                                          Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC.

                                          This is absolutely the wrong response. You should never have a physical DC, ever. There is zero issues here with virtualization. There are two problems....

                                          • Zero AD redundancy
                                          • An inverted pyramid of doom (single storage for all systems)

                                          Fixing either of those anti-practices would have saved you. Physical would have zero benefit and is the polar opposite of the reaction that you should have.

                                          having a physical in this situation would have probably saved him. That said, I agree it's not the solution. If you really wanted to have a DC outside this cluster, fine, but you still virtualize that third server, then install a DC on that.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @seal
                                            last edited by

                                            @seal said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                            Isn't this saying the virtual drives for each failed? This should be different than a physical drive failure, right? Or am I reading something wrong?

                                            Well, yes and no. You are correct. The warning is that the LDs have failed. But the LDs fail when their underlying array fails. That underlying array is built on physical drives. So for the LDs to fail, it means that the array(s) that they share has failed, which means that the drives it has in its pool have failed. Or that both controllers have failed. In this case, since two utility LUNs are still hanging around, we are guessing that the controller(s) are intact and only the array has failed.

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