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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      hour. Last night, for example, we saw 54GB download in a single hour on Steam.

      I hear some XBox games can be like that.

      Again, caps will kill these types of solutions.

      We're back to the semi truck driving data around, as long as we can tolerate the latency, it can be significantly cheaper to do physical media.

      Halo Master Chief Collection had a 20GB day one patch. Glad I didn't buy that one 😛

      Exactly - we're running into bloat problems again. MS is only now, a year after releasing Windows 10, working on enabling Windows 10 to download only the differences needed for future major upgrades. It's been 3-5 GB each time you need to upgrade.

      Many companies stopped worrying about bloated software since large, unlimited or nearly unlimited pipes were available to customers, but now seeing these caps, the potential is huge for people to be paying more for a patch than they did for a game ( as already mentioned by Scott).

      Except, again, this makes no sense. People may have had "unlimited" before but they were small pipes causes more problems, not less, than today.

      If you were using your Internet today like you used to, you'd not be hitting caps and you'd get what you got before... just faster.

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        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

        At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

        You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

        where is it getting less expensive?

        Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

        While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

        The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

        So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

        The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

        There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          hour. Last night, for example, we saw 54GB download in a single hour on Steam.

          I hear some XBox games can be like that.

          Again, caps will kill these types of solutions.

          We're back to the semi truck driving data around, as long as we can tolerate the latency, it can be significantly cheaper to do physical media.

          Only an issue when: using insane amounts of Internet already and buying loads of expensive games.

          We are still seeing huge improvements over the past.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom
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            Three-day work week this week at the daily grind. Ugh. Four-day weekends FTW!

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @thanksajdotcom
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              @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Three-day work week this week at the daily grind. Ugh. Four-day weekends FTW!

              Yeah, today - Thursday is gonna be a looooong stretch.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                where is it getting less expensive?

                Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                  At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                  You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                  where is it getting less expensive?

                  Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                  While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                  The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                  So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                  The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                  There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                  But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                  Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                    At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                    You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                    where is it getting less expensive?

                    Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                    While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                    The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                    So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                    The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                    There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                    But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                    Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                    We each found our own value - it's what makes this pretty subjective. 🙂

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                      At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                      You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                      where is it getting less expensive?

                      Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                      While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                      The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                      So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                      The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                      There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                      But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                      Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                      I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                        At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                        You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                        where is it getting less expensive?

                        Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                        While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                        The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                        So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                        The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                        There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                        But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                        Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                        I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

                        But a lot aren't available. For example, HGTV, if you want that, you have to find a streaming service that provides it. Sure PS Vue does and Sling TV, but both of them require the $20+ package to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not standing up for cable, I'm just saying that IF you want some of that content, it's not super cheap.

                        Toss in the fact that you loose functions like DVR with Sling (though I hear they are working on it) and the DVR feature of PS Vue is kinda crap - ok it's real crap compared to cable or TIVO.

                        now there's an idea - Tivo for streaming services.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                          At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                          You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                          where is it getting less expensive?

                          Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                          While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                          The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                          So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                          The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                          There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                          But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                          Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                          I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

                          But a lot aren't available. For example, HGTV, if you want that, you have to find a streaming service that provides it. Sure PS Vue does and Sling TV, but both of them require the $20+ package to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not standing up for cable, I'm just saying that IF you want some of that content, it's not super cheap.

                          Toss in the fact that you loose functions like DVR with Sling (though I hear they are working on it) and the DVR feature of PS Vue is kinda crap - ok it's real crap compared to cable or TIVO.

                          now there's an idea - Tivo for streaming services.

                          Streaming services are already TiVO'd for you. Needing a DVR for your DVR is pretty weird as a concept.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            HGTV is crap streaming. Oh but wait, it's the same crap on cable. Neither does what you expect and neither is useful.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              HGTV is crap streaming. Oh but wait, it's the same crap on cable. Neither does what you expect and neither is useful.

                              There, FTFY.

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                                brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                                At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                                You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                                where is it getting less expensive?

                                Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                                While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                                The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                                So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                                The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                                There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                                But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                                Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                                I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

                                But a lot aren't available. For example, HGTV, if you want that, you have to find a streaming service that provides it. Sure PS Vue does and Sling TV, but both of them require the $20+ package to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not standing up for cable, I'm just saying that IF you want some of that content, it's not super cheap.

                                Toss in the fact that you loose functions like DVR with Sling (though I hear they are working on it) and the DVR feature of PS Vue is kinda crap - ok it's real crap compared to cable or TIVO.

                                now there's an idea - Tivo for streaming services.

                                Streaming services are already TiVO'd for you. Needing a DVR for your DVR is pretty weird as a concept.

                                Except for live events.

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                                  I want one of these...

                                  https://www.privacypop.com/shop/tent/privacy-pop-bed-tent/black/

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                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                                    At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                                    You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                                    where is it getting less expensive?

                                    Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                                    While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                                    The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                                    So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                                    The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                                    There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                                    But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                                    Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                                    I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

                                    But a lot aren't available. For example, HGTV, if you want that, you have to find a streaming service that provides it. Sure PS Vue does and Sling TV, but both of them require the $20+ package to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not standing up for cable, I'm just saying that IF you want some of that content, it's not super cheap.

                                    Toss in the fact that you loose functions like DVR with Sling (though I hear they are working on it) and the DVR feature of PS Vue is kinda crap - ok it's real crap compared to cable or TIVO.

                                    now there's an idea - Tivo for streaming services.

                                    Streaming services are already TiVO'd for you. Needing a DVR for your DVR is pretty weird as a concept.

                                    You have a point, to a point - if my internet goes out, I have access to nothing. If my cable goes out, anything on my DVR is still local and available.

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                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      HGTV is crap streaming. Oh but wait, it's the same crap on cable. Neither does what you expect and neither is useful.

                                      it was an easy example of something that's not available on it's own, you have to get a package to get it.

                                      ESPN for example (HBO is another) that I'm pretty sure you can get completely on it's own these days.

                                      But now we're running into another problem. With cable, you can turn on a substantial number of TVs in the house and pay the same fee for them all to be streamed in HD. But if you move to internet streamed video, you probably need a faster pipe, and run a risk of hitting a data cap. See Scott's post about 1 day reaching 1/4 or was it 1/2 of the monthly included service?

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                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Making the internet more expensive will do little more than kill online services.

                                        At this rate Netflix will only be for the wealthy, etc.

                                        You say making it more expensive, but it's getting cheaper. Where do you see it costing more?

                                        where is it getting less expensive?

                                        Everywhere that I know of. You pay the same for 100Mb/s today that we used to pay for dialup.

                                        While true, we're NOT comparing to old dialup here, but what was available a year ago at most.

                                        The big ISPs are purposely setting caps that prevent people from replacing TV service with cheaper streaming services.

                                        So, from a company perspective, they're getting a two-fer. Preventing people from replacing needlessly expensive cable/satellite service with a cheaper alternative, and getting a small percentage of people to pay way more. Makes all sorts of sense from a business perspective.

                                        The more and more I read, the more places I see that say, cord cutting it not about cutting costs, it's about freedom of choice.

                                        There is no way to compare. We pay $10 for Netflix instead of $100 for Cable. So you decide if we cut costs.

                                        But your options are also significantly less too. Not saying you care, perhaps cable offered you nothing you wanted. I would like 8 or so channels on cable, I definitely don't want ESPN. Getting rid of ESPN alone could save me $30+ a month, what they charge the cable provider to provide it to me. This is a case where I'm paying for the rich to have something cheaper... lol

                                        Well, I've never seen any cable channel worth having. So to me I'm getting 1000x the value for 10% of the price.

                                        I have to agree with this. Streaming services are the death of traditional cable. Pay for the channels you want and you have them accessible from any device. Done.

                                        But a lot aren't available. For example, HGTV, if you want that, you have to find a streaming service that provides it. Sure PS Vue does and Sling TV, but both of them require the $20+ package to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm not standing up for cable, I'm just saying that IF you want some of that content, it's not super cheap.

                                        Toss in the fact that you loose functions like DVR with Sling (though I hear they are working on it) and the DVR feature of PS Vue is kinda crap - ok it's real crap compared to cable or TIVO.

                                        now there's an idea - Tivo for streaming services.

                                        Streaming services are already TiVO'd for you. Needing a DVR for your DVR is pretty weird as a concept.

                                        You have a point, to a point - if my internet goes out, I have access to nothing. If my cable goes out, anything on my DVR is still local and available.

                                        But if you are away from home, your DVR would still be out.

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                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          HGTV is crap streaming. Oh but wait, it's the same crap on cable. Neither does what you expect and neither is useful.

                                          it was an easy example of something that's not available on it's own, you have to get a package to get it.

                                          ESPN for example (HBO is another) that I'm pretty sure you can get completely on it's own these days.

                                          But now we're running into another problem. With cable, you can turn on a substantial number of TVs in the house and pay the same fee for them all to be streamed in HD. But if you move to internet streamed video, you probably need a faster pipe, and run a risk of hitting a data cap. See Scott's post about 1 day reaching 1/4 or was it 1/2 of the monthly included service?

                                          Most cable that I know requires you to pay for each device that is hooked up to it. Some streaming does that, some does not (Netflix gives you more than one.)

                                          Likewise, all streaming gives you "wherever you are" access, how many cable providers do that?

                                          One is "location based", one is not.

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                                            Some traditional TV is fixing some of their shortcomings.. but only by switching to being streaming services.

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