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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

      @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

      I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

      That takes effort.

      Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

        @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

        @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

        I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

        That takes effort.

        Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

        well not anymore... choco install -y javaruntime but the principle of the thing..

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
          last edited by

          I have 1 admin workstation with java on it just to access iDRACs on production systems. PITA.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

            @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

            @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

            @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

            I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

            That takes effort.

            Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

            well not anymore... choco install -y javaruntime but the principle of the thing..

            Can you set that so it doesn't install the Browser addons and all that ?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @dafyre
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              @dafyre said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

              @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

              @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

              @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

              @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

              I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

              That takes effort.

              Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

              well not anymore... choco install -y javaruntime but the principle of the thing..

              Can you set that so it doesn't install the Browser addons and all that ?

              It does that by default i believe.
              It also install both the 32 and 64 bit versions by default.
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              • AdamFA
                AdamF @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

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                Yeah, it's gross. I cringe every time I have to use it.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                  I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

                  That takes effort.

                  Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

                  well not anymore... choco install -y javaruntime but the principle of the thing..

                  I meant in terms of "God I really need Java...... do I really need remote access..... so much effort to support Java by installing it....."

                  But yeah I know what you mean as well.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                    @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                    I wonder why they haven't moved to HTML5 yet....

                    That takes effort.

                    Eh yeah.... but so does installing Java....

                    well not anymore... choco install -y javaruntime but the principle of the thing..

                    I meant in terms of "God I really need Java...... do I really need remote access..... so much effort to support Java by installing it....."

                    Yes, I have just rebooted servers instead of using the console.
                    That is quite sad.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      iLO is the same if you're not using Windows. It sucks.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        aaaaaannnnnndddd I have to go in and manually weaken Java on top of it.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
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                          I'd build a VM in VirtualBox just for this reason.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            All that work and..........

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              I even logged in to the DRAC with SSH and did a reset of it.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                I even logged in to the DRAC with SSH and did a reset of it.

                                All for something that's supposed to be "easy", FML.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  I had to import the iDRAC SSL certificate into Java...

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                    I had to import the iDRAC SSL certificate into Java...

                                    WTF!

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                      I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

                                      0_1480951543290_upload-0259b3aa-788d-408f-95ff-14b3879d12c9

                                      Pretty much the same for every kind of remote console, be it on an IBM, Dell or SuperMicro server or on an Aten IP KVM. PITA, big, nasty PITA.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @thwr
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                                        @thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                        I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

                                        0_1480951543290_upload-0259b3aa-788d-408f-95ff-14b3879d12c9

                                        Pretty much the same for every kind of remote console, be it on an IBM, Dell or SuperMicro server or on an Aten IP KVM. PITA, big, nasty PITA.

                                        How many of us have a VM on our workstation just for this? I know I do, and it's hard to get much smaller than we are and still need any IT.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @travisdh1
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                                          @travisdh1 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                          @thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                          I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

                                          0_1480951543290_upload-0259b3aa-788d-408f-95ff-14b3879d12c9

                                          Pretty much the same for every kind of remote console, be it on an IBM, Dell or SuperMicro server or on an Aten IP KVM. PITA, big, nasty PITA.

                                          How many of us have a VM on our workstation just for this? I know I do, and it's hard to get much smaller than we are and still need any IT.

                                          Yup, using a VM for this. Yet another system to maintain.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @thwr
                                            last edited by

                                            @thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                            @thwr said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Dell iDrac still requires Java:

                                            I have not needed to use the iDRAC console in a couple of years now, and I had not realized that I still had to have f'n java installed in order to use it. WTF....

                                            0_1480951543290_upload-0259b3aa-788d-408f-95ff-14b3879d12c9

                                            Pretty much the same for every kind of remote console, be it on an IBM, Dell or SuperMicro server or on an Aten IP KVM. PITA, big, nasty PITA.

                                            How many of us have a VM on our workstation just for this? I know I do, and it's hard to get much smaller than we are and still need any IT.

                                            Yup, using a VM for this. Yet another system to maintain.

                                            I have a machine or VM (depending on client) running Veeam already so I drop java on that via chocolatey.

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