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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      This article looks at the issue from the position of not being able to virtualize, but the questions remain the same.... basically your vendor doesn't appear to either have support for the product or doesn't care that it doesn't work well. So you need to determine.. why? Are they unable to support it? Are they out of money? Do they think that they can just take advantage of customers who don't question them or shop around? Are they no longer able to hire the talent that they need to keep developing? Something is causing this software to fall below common standards (from over a decade ago.) Whatever reason that is is one of great concern to anyone in your business because it very, very likely is a huge piece of risk for you.

      http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/you-cant-virtualize-that/

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
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        It is 100% virtualized, it just happens to be 100% windows!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in Windows VM in the cloud:

          It is 100% virtualized, it just happens to be 100% windows!

          That's why I stated that you needed to read it and not get caught up in the virtualization bit. All of the logic still applies. And again, it has nothing to do with being Windows, it's about being legacy. You are getting caught on the wrong details. It's the issues around support and modernity, not that it uses Windows or is virtual, that we are discussing.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
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            Maybe someone might have some better info.
            This is the system https://www.nextgen.com/

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in Windows VM in the cloud:

              Maybe someone might have some better info.
              This is the system https://www.nextgen.com/

              The tough part is that you have no way to really know. The only thing that you know is that they are lacking a modern interface for their system that lags the market by a huge margin. What you wonder is why. Depending on the answer to that question, it might or might not be a viable system for you. But sadly, there is no way to get that answer. You can probe the vendor, but they have no obligation to tell you.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad choice, or that you even have any options, only that it is a valid concern and something to be aware of and possibly look into.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                  I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad choice, or that you even have any options, only that it is a valid concern and something to be aware of and possibly look into.

                  Scott, are you aware of any EHRs are that supported on Linux endpoints? We have athenaHealth, it's definitely not, it is web browser based, but still has crazy limitations tying it into Windows for thinks like file/picture uploads. They specifically don't support osX for those things. The main functions should be usable in Chrome on LInux, but if you have any issues they will tell you it's not supported and demand that you move to Windows or OSX.

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                  • syko24S
                    syko24 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender - www.AdvancedMD.com currently supports only Internet Explorer because of ActiveX. They are working on a Chrome compatible version that is supposed to be released in the not so distant future.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @syko24
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                      @syko24 said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                      @Dashrender - www.AdvancedMD.com currently supports only Internet Explorer because of ActiveX. They are working on a Chrome compatible version that is supposed to be released in the not so distant future.

                      OK? so that means they don't support running on Linux..

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                      • syko24S
                        syko24 @syko24
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                        @syko24 said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                        @Dashrender - www.AdvancedMD.com currently supports only Internet Explorer because of ActiveX. They are working on a Chrome compatible version that is supposed to be released in the not so distant future.

                        Hmmmm according to this it seems that it may already be available. http://www.advancedmd.com/blog/advancedmd-for-any-browser-a-sneak-peek

                        Last time I checked it failed to login from Chrome and had a message saying that it will be available soon.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                          Scott, are you aware of any EHRs are that supported on Linux endpoints?

                          I'm not looking for Linux, I'm looking for modern. Things in the modern world are OS agnostic because they don't get installed or run on the OS but run in the browser (unless there is specific needs to the contrary.) A proper, modern system delivering things kind of data should have a compatibility dependency, like HTML5, not an OS one of any sort. It shouldn't run "on" Linux any more than MangoLassi does.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I do realize that, but if the system works on LInux, it will probably work anywhere. 😉

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @syko24
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                              @syko24 said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                              @syko24 said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                              @Dashrender - www.AdvancedMD.com currently supports only Internet Explorer because of ActiveX. They are working on a Chrome compatible version that is supposed to be released in the not so distant future.

                              Hmmmm according to this it seems that it may already be available. http://www.advancedmd.com/blog/advancedmd-for-any-browser-a-sneak-peek

                              Last time I checked it failed to login from Chrome and had a message saying that it will be available soon.

                              Looks like at least someone has an active, functional development team doing something 😉 This is a small thing in the grand scheme. But one has to ask.... if someone can make a functional EMR, this should be so trivial that we can't even imagine how much of an after through it should be. If they can't make browser compatibility, how can we trust them with patient data?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Windows VM in the cloud:

                                I do realize that, but if the system works on LInux, it will probably work anywhere. 😉

                                That's not solid logic. Lots of things run on Linux but not in a browser.

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