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    SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      SMTP - Simple Mail Transfer Protocol

      Mail from a logging event for example on a local Linux server is according to @scottalanmiller just logs. Now the generation of the log to me is the logging event, the notification to me is mail, obviously not email because it isn't traversing the internet nor is it using SMTP to go to it's destination. Yet the user is alerted to "You have mail".

      So what is this mechanism that notifies the user/admin(root) of events on the local system that should be reviewed (read)?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Updated to add tags.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          It's a text file. The mechanism is just a login time script that looks for new text at the end of the file (actually "since last login.") Thats all, just a script in the bash_rc or profile.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

            It's a text file. The mechanism is just a login time script that looks for new text at the end of the file (actually "since last login.") Thats all, just a script in the bash_rc or profile.

            So why call it "mail"?

            I think you should beat up all of the *nix devs out there!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

              @scottalanmiller said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

              It's a text file. The mechanism is just a login time script that looks for new text at the end of the file (actually "since last login.") Thats all, just a script in the bash_rc or profile.

              So why call it "mail"?

              I think you should beat up all of the *nix devs out there!

              Because it's not meant to be used that way. It's meant to be delivered via an SMTP server and dropped into that location.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                So the alerts are meant to be delievered via SMTP, therefore they are "email files" without the SMTP portion. Hence they are email.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda
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                  It has probably been that way since the 70's

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

                    So the alerts are meant to be delievered via SMTP, therefore they are "email files" without the SMTP portion. Hence they are email.

                    There is no such thing. You can't just call all text files "email". If you do, literally everything is email. So the term is now lost. Go pick up your email from the dry cleaners so you can be home in time to eat your email for dinner.

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller I love eating email for dinner

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        @scottalanmiller said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in SMTP is Email so what is the mail you get from logging?:

                        So the alerts are meant to be delievered via SMTP, therefore they are "email files" without the SMTP portion. Hence they are email.

                        There is no such thing. You can't just call all text files "email". If you do, literally everything is email. So the term is now lost. Go pick up your email from the dry cleaners so you can be home in time to eat your email for dinner.

                        hahahah I laughed way to hard when I read that on my phone!

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