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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If you are non-profit I think that it's tax free as a donation.

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        TAHIN
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        It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @TAHIN
          last edited by

          @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

          It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

          Yes, likely a CPA is needed here.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @TAHIN
            last edited by

            @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

            It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

            shivers

            Yes - A CPA or such will be needed..

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              hubtechagain
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              you should ask the legal dept
              paging @KOOLER or @Jason

              #flamesuit

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              • J
                Jason Banned
                last edited by

                Ask your finance department, if you have an in house Controller/CPA

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                  Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                  though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Oh and it's not like taking something to Canada either 😉 😛

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                      Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                      Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                      though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                      That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                        last edited by

                        @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                        @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                        Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                        Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                        though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                        That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                        Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                          @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                          @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                          Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                          Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                          though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                          That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                          Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                          These aren't purchased goods, these are gifts.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                            @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                            @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                            Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                            Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                            though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                            That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                            Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                            You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                              Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                              though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                              That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                              Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                              These aren't purchased goods, these are gifts.

                              If you look at the quoted items I suggested that the OP not accept a gift, instead to pay for them. Then the value becomes what you paid - unless there is tax code for non home/building/vehicle items at a specific value being sold for less than current value that would then make you have to pay taxes on the current actual value.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                                Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                                though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                                That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                                Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                                You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                See my other post 🙂

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                                  TAHIN @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                  You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                  "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                  I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @TAHIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                    "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                    I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                    Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                    I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

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                                      TAHIN @TAHIN
                                      last edited by

                                      Which is also why I had to google "use tax".

                                      Ignorance sure is bliss!

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                        @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                        You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                        "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                        I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                        Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                        I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

                                        Any states not have those?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                          @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                          @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                          You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                          "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                          I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                          Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                          I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

                                          Any states not have those?

                                          Not have what? Capital gains? I have no idea - but I'm not sure that capital gains count on sold goods that aren't the aforementioned home/building/vehicle.

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                                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                            "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                            I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                            Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                            I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

                                            Actually they are subject to property tax as well as depreciation credits. With business all physical assets are taxable.

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