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    • olivierO
      olivier @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill Got it. Not yet, that's also because XenServer market isn't really big (I don't say "confidential" but close)

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @olivier
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        @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @BRRABill Got it. Not yet, that's also because XenServer market isn't really big (I don't say "confidential" but close)

        Huh?

        I said I was looking at your business location on Google Maps Street View. Were you responding to someone else?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Texkonc said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Texkonc said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Just thinking on how the documentation here at Mangolassi.it is better than XenServer's official documentation, and heading to lunch.

          There is Xen here at my new job. It looks simple. I havent spent much time in it and already feel comfortable.

          What are they using to manage it?

          XenCenter

          Yeah I don't understand why you haven't built an XO vm yet, it's free to do so. And it really gets you to understand how solid of a product it is.

          Because he literally just started.

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          • olivierO
            olivier @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)

            I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them 😉

            We are based in France, in Grenoble.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @olivier
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              @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)

              I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them 😉

              We are based in France, in Grenoble.

              Yes I was looking at your street. 🙂

              I feel like I've been on vacation, or as @scottalanmiller would probably say, holiday.

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              • thwrT
                thwr @olivier
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                @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)

                I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them 😉

                We are based in France, in Grenoble.

                Oh, neighbors 😉

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Texkonc said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Texkonc said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Just thinking on how the documentation here at Mangolassi.it is better than XenServer's official documentation, and heading to lunch.

                  There is Xen here at my new job. It looks simple. I havent spent much time in it and already feel comfortable.

                  What are they using to manage it?

                  XenCenter

                  Yeah I don't understand why you haven't built an XO vm yet, it's free to do so. And it really gets you to understand how solid of a product it is.

                  Because he literally just started.

                  Well what's the hold up now?! Get er done!

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier @thwr
                    last edited by olivier

                    @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @olivier
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                      @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

                      No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @thwr
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                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

                        No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name

                        It is? What's DESY?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @olivier I agree here with @scottalanmiller, sticking to the freemium approach is a horrid idea.

                          Moving to, you mean. THey are not doing freemium right now, just not making it obvious enough that they are not. I don't think @olivier realizes how many companies walk away the moment that they see freemium "looking" products like @Texkonc's company did this morning. The free product should be a loss leader to do the marketing for them, that's how RH makes it work. Their free stuff makes them a household name, then larger companies pay for support. That's how the model works. Freemium just makes people look elsewhere before even getting started. That's why everyone in this community ignored XO until we found out it was fully open sourced.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thwr
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                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

                            No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name

                            Not around here. Who are they?

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier @thwr
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                              @thwr Not for non-science people ^^

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

                                No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name

                                It is? What's DESY?

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESY

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @olivier
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                                  @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @thwr Not for non-science people ^^

                                  ...With a broken Google. 🙂

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier @thwr
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                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr On the US scale, yes 🙂 We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)

                                    No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name

                                    It is? What's DESY?

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESY

                                    In short, a "smaller" LHC, but with a LOT of machines doing heavy CPUs task, running a LOT of XS hosts.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @olivier
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                                      @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      That's my opinion/experience after 2y on the Open Source business (as a primary thing for my company I mean). Feel free to not share this point of view, but it cames from the field 🙂

                                      How many of each company have you run? 🙂

                                      My experience comes from the field as well. From a customer side, this is what I see businesses using to choose software. Freemium is almost an instant "ignore" when it comes to products. It means that it isn't worth deploying to test. Pure open means that I can safely deploy and then decide if I want to keep it, pay for support, etc.

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier
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                                        Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense 😉 (I don't have any problem with that).

                                        Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @olivier
                                          last edited by DustinB3403

                                          @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense 😉 (I don't have any problem with that).

                                          Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.

                                          Actually, as a software consumer it would make the decision. It means I weigh the risks of having great software, but no support, and great software with support.

                                          Of course I may chose to be cheap, but that doesn't mean a business would chose to be cheap.

                                          @olivier have you ever heard of KickStarter?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @olivier
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                                            @olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense 😉 (I don't have any problem with that).

                                            Nope, not true at all. I often don't want cheaper. But things that I DO want...

                                            • Open Souce (it's a safety thing)
                                            • Non-freemium entry point so that I can test with comfort or use in less than critical modes
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