Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media
-
@scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
So seeing this, what would you think the next logical step would be to accomplish what I want.
And by association, what anyone running XS off USB would want?
Well, the current file (before you add the remote) tells all of those things to log to the local files. Then you add a line that tells it to, after writing to individual local files, also send copies to the remote syslog server.
So if you don't want it to write locally, you comment out each of the lines that tell it what to write locally.
It should be that simple. Adding the remote tells it to send the logs, but in no ways tells it NOT to change the local writing. Just comment out the local writing.Right, and that is what gets overwritten.
Let me try it and see what happens.
I'll report right back.
-
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
I would still assume based on what you've presented that you need to comment out the local storage folders on both XS6.5 and XS7 to disable logging locally.
The . (at the very end) what purpose does that server?
No idea.
And I wonder if we really NEED those logs.
It's just to disable defaults. It's meaningless given the remote command that you've added. Feel free to comment it out or delete it as you have overridden it already.
-
@scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
I would still assume based on what you've presented that you need to comment out the local storage folders on both XS6.5 and XS7 to disable logging locally.
The . (at the very end) what purpose does that server?
No idea.
And I wonder if we really NEED those logs.
It's just to disable defaults. It's meaningless given the remote command that you've added. Feel free to comment it out or delete it as you have overridden it already.
So, you don't think there are also things that might not get sent to the remote syslog server? I guess we could test that as well.
-
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
So seeing this, what would you think the next logical step would be to accomplish what I want.
And by association, what anyone running XS off USB would want?
Well, the current file (before you add the remote) tells all of those things to log to the local files. Then you add a line that tells it to, after writing to individual local files, also send copies to the remote syslog server.
So if you don't want it to write locally, you comment out each of the lines that tell it what to write locally.
It should be that simple. Adding the remote tells it to send the logs, but in no ways tells it NOT to change the local writing. Just comment out the local writing.Right, and that is what gets overwritten.
Let me try it and see what happens.
I'll report right back.
Wow, it kept the settings. That is promising!
-
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
So seeing this, what would you think the next logical step would be to accomplish what I want.
And by association, what anyone running XS off USB would want?
Well, the current file (before you add the remote) tells all of those things to log to the local files. Then you add a line that tells it to, after writing to individual local files, also send copies to the remote syslog server.
So if you don't want it to write locally, you comment out each of the lines that tell it what to write locally.
It should be that simple. Adding the remote tells it to send the logs, but in no ways tells it NOT to change the local writing. Just comment out the local writing.Right, and that is what gets overwritten.
Let me try it and see what happens.
I'll report right back.
Wow, it kept the settings. That is promising!
So show us your log config file. Was this on XS6.5 or XS7?
-
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
So seeing this, what would you think the next logical step would be to accomplish what I want.
And by association, what anyone running XS off USB would want?
Well, the current file (before you add the remote) tells all of those things to log to the local files. Then you add a line that tells it to, after writing to individual local files, also send copies to the remote syslog server.
So if you don't want it to write locally, you comment out each of the lines that tell it what to write locally.
It should be that simple. Adding the remote tells it to send the logs, but in no ways tells it NOT to change the local writing. Just comment out the local writing.Right, and that is what gets overwritten.
Let me try it and see what happens.
I'll report right back.
Wow, it kept the settings. That is promising!
So show us your log config file. Was this on XS6.5 or XS7?
On XS7.
I'm keeping an eye on /var/log to see if anything writes there first.
-
Most of the files seem to have stopped.
It's these files I am watching...
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38273316 Sep 6 11:25 lastlog -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 43776 Sep 6 11:25 wtmp -rw------- 1 root utmp 768 Sep 6 11:21 btmp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 11:20 blktap -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 792 Sep 6 11:16 ovs-xapi-sync.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2628 Sep 6 11:15 ovs-ctl.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1784 Sep 6 11:14 restoreeswitchcfg.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 348 Sep 6 11:14 interface-rename.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 128 Sep 6 11:14 xenstored.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11212 Sep 6 11:14 boot.log -
@BRRABill updates....updates....
-
awesome.. where are you sending the logs? to an ELK or Greylog server?
-
@Dashrender said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
awesome.. where are you sending the logs? to an ELK or Greylog server?
Graylog.
However, my Graylog server that was working two weeks ago is now longer no longer working.
So, trying to remedy that.
-
Looking good still..
Tue Sep 6 12:01:23 EDT 2016 [root@xenserver-test-reinstall log]# ls -l -t total 113832 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38273316 Sep 6 11:25 lastlog -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 43776 Sep 6 11:25 wtmp -rw------- 1 root utmp 768 Sep 6 11:21 btmp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 6 11:20 blktap -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 792 Sep 6 11:16 ovs-xapi-sync.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2628 Sep 6 11:15 ovs-ctl.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1784 Sep 6 11:14 restoreeswitchcfg.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 348 Sep 6 11:14 interface-rename.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 128 Sep 6 11:14 xenstored.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11212 Sep 6 11:14 boot.log -
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
What log server are you using to collect the logs?
What changes did you make to the config file for the logs?
-
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
What log server are you using to collect the logs?
What changes did you make to the config file for the logs?
I was using Graylog, which was working before. However now it is NOT working.
Trying to reinstall GrayLog.
-
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
What log server are you using to collect the logs?
What changes did you make to the config file for the logs?
I was using Graylog, which was working before. However now it is NOT working.
Trying to reinstall GrayLog.
What, why did it stop?
-
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
BTW, there was a post on the XenServer forums about running off of USB today, and this was the response (from a user with almost 6,000 posts there):
"Its technically possible, but frowned upon due to SD cards usually not being good quality that can handle the amount of read/writes. There are sites/link on the Internet where others have done such a thing. Citrix will likely not be of assistance if you need there support, you would be totally on your own."
https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/380868-hypervisor-on-sd-card/
This thread mentions that Citrix will not "support" external logging, is that an issue to be concerned with? -
@FATeknollogee said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
@BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
BTW, there was a post on the XenServer forums about running off of USB today, and this was the response (from a user with almost 6,000 posts there):
"Its technically possible, but frowned upon due to SD cards usually not being good quality that can handle the amount of read/writes. There are sites/link on the Internet where others have done such a thing. Citrix will likely not be of assistance if you need there support, you would be totally on your own."
https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/380868-hypervisor-on-sd-card/
This thread mentions that Citrix will not "support" external logging, is that an issue to be concerned with?It's an issue if you want to send your logs in to be analyzed by Citrix.
-
@FATeknollogee If you have bought support from Citrix it will be an issue, if you are the one providing the support as with any other linux install it will not.
-
IE: If you're paying citrix for support, follow their guide on installation, use hardware raid, and create two partitions. One for XS, the other for your VMs.
-
@DustinB3403 said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:
IE: If you're paying citrix for support, follow their guide on installation, use hardware raid, and create two partitions. One for XS, the other for your VMs.
Well, that's the main issue I am trying to get to the bottom of.
ML loves USB installs, but is it the right call?
Plus, at least on a DELL array, you'd have to install XS, then add SR via console later. They don't let you set up partitions during the install.
-
Nah, I'm supported by the People's Republic of ML...
