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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by wirestyle22

      Can an OS even support that much space?

      EDIT: I meant over a Petabyte being the maximum amount of space. That is a lot.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

        Can an OS even support that much space?

        Easily

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          https://mangolassi.it/topic/10217/seagate-sas-ssd-hits-60tb-capacity

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

            Can an OS even support that much space?

            IRIX was supporting petabyte+ size file systems in the 90s, doubt that 60TB will be an issue, unless you insist on using ext4 with the odd limitations placed on that.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

              @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

              Can an OS even support that much space?

              IRIX was supporting petabyte+ size file systems in the 90s, doubt that 60TB will be an issue, unless you insist on using ext4 with the odd limitations placed on that.

              I honestly didn't know. There could have been a weird way to make that work with pooling etc. A petabyte on a single server is a lot.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                Can an OS even support that much space?

                IRIX was supporting petabyte+ size file systems in the 90s, doubt that 60TB will be an issue, unless you insist on using ext4 with the odd limitations placed on that.

                I honestly didn't know. There could have been a weird way to make that work with pooling etc. A petabyte on a single server is a lot.

                It's a lot for a single server to hold, not a lot for a filesystem to handle. ZFS is for zettabytes of data, petabytes aren't even on the radar of concern. And ZFS is more than a decade old.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                  @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                  Can an OS even support that much space?

                  IRIX was supporting petabyte+ size file systems in the 90s, doubt that 60TB will be an issue, unless you insist on using ext4 with the odd limitations placed on that.

                  I honestly didn't know. There could have been a weird way to make that work with pooling etc. A petabyte on a single server is a lot.

                  I am talking about a whole other class of hardware, the stuff that starts at a full rack and expands from there.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                    @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                    Can an OS even support that much space?

                    IRIX was supporting petabyte+ size file systems in the 90s, doubt that 60TB will be an issue, unless you insist on using ext4 with the odd limitations placed on that.

                    I honestly didn't know. There could have been a weird way to make that work with pooling etc. A petabyte on a single server is a lot.

                    It's a lot for a single server to hold, not a lot for a filesystem to handle. ZFS is for zettabytes of data, petabytes aren't even on the radar of concern. And ZFS is more than a decade old.

                    That is wild. Thanks

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      If Sun's ZFS monster, the 2005 Thumper's SATA controllers could handle these drives, or if we use some of SuperMIcro's gear... we'd be looking at things like 2.7PB usable in a single 4U server today!

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        Do we know what the IOPS is?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                          Do we know what the IOPS is?

                          No

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                            Do we know what the IOPS is?

                            No

                            You're not going to jump on me over latency of the drive etc? All of the other considerations that go into hard drives? I'm surprised. You must like me

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                            • scottalanmillerS
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                              Found it, 150K

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                Found it, 150K

                                I didn't see, is that thing SATA, SAS or pcie connected? That makes sense with a SATA drive, isn't that close to the max you can push over a SATA bus?

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                                • thanksajdotcomT
                                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                  https://mangolassi.it/topic/10217/seagate-sas-ssd-hits-60tb-capacity

                                  Literally they were posted back to back...dammit!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                    Found it, 150K

                                    I didn't see, is that thing SATA, SAS or pcie connected? That makes sense with a SATA drive, isn't that close to the max you can push over a SATA bus?

                                    SAS

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                      Found it, 150K

                                      I didn't see, is that thing SATA, SAS or pcie connected? That makes sense with a SATA drive, isn't that close to the max you can push over a SATA bus?

                                      SATA and SAS can do a lot of IOPS, it's bandwidth where they are most limited.

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                                      • DashrenderD
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                                        I'm surprised this thing is SAS, but maybe the bandwidth isn't the issue, just sheer storage is?

                                        With things like this, I see a time in the very near future where nothing ever captured will ever be destroyed, deleted.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Seagate Reveals 60TB SSD:

                                          I'm surprised this thing is SAS, but maybe the bandwidth isn't the issue, just sheer storage is?

                                          With things like this, I see a time in the very near future where nothing ever captured will ever be destroyed, deleted.

                                          We're well past the point that I've heard that predicted for, I forget the exact time, but in the early 2000s is what I heard. With the new NSA data centers, that prediction looks prescient to me.

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                                          • DashrenderD
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                                            Hmm.. .I hear what you are saying... but I thought I heard that the amount of data created daily would still fill that NSA data center in like 4 years.. soooooo.....

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