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    Which comes first Laws or Lawyers

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jason
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      @Jason said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

      This is executive vs judicial two different things, one makes law one does not.

      At the federal level... this is Congress makes all laws, Supreme Court interprets all laws.

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      • NicN
        Nic
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        If we include "natural law" then the laws pre-date the lawyers.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Nic
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          @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

          If we include "natural law" then the laws pre-date the lawyers.

          Even if we don't.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Natural law predates the politicians.

            Politicians predate man made laws.

            Man made laws predate lawyers.

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            • NicN
              Nic
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              What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                Head Grok made a statement. Lowbie Grok found out what happened if he touched Grok's hamburger. Everybody listened to Grok next time he said something... That is why Grok is Chief.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Nic
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                  @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                  What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?

                  If you consider it a law, then yes, he'd be a politician. But would it be a law? That implies that laws are just threats and that politicians are just bullies.

                  Oh wait, I see your point.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                    @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                    What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?

                    If you consider it a law, then yes, he'd be a politician. But would it be a law? That implies that laws are just threats and that politicians are just bullies.

                    Oh wait, I see your point.

                    He does make a good one, don't he?

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                    • NicN
                      Nic @dafyre
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                      What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Nic
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                        @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                        What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.

                        to be accepted they add to accept them. Someone acting as a polit had to do the accepting. What pirates worked without a leader?

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @Nic
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                          @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                          What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.

                          It's not really a code... It's more like... guidelines.

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                            travisdh1 @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                            @Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                            What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.

                            It's not really a code... It's more like... guidelines.

                            Right.

                            Resisting the urge to head down that rabbit hole.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              another thing to think about..

                              Take away all of the eggs and you do not affect the chickens. But take away the laws and lawyers cease to exist.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:

                                another thing to think about..

                                Take away all of the eggs and you do not affect the chickens. But take away the laws and lawyers cease to exist.

                                Hmm... This gives me an idea.... Oh wait... it's too late for that.

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