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      stacksofplates @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

      @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

      @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

      cause he has $1000 in purchases there already.

      That's sunk cost thinking

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        Dashrender @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

        @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

        @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

        @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

        cause he has $1000 in purchases there already.

        That's sunk cost thinking

        Maybe, not necessarily - if that's your only reason, then yes, sunk cost thinking, but the reason can be in the list of reasons to stay.

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          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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          @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

          @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

          Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

            @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

            @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

            Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

            when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

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              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

              @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

              @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

              @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

              Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

              when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

              That's exactly what everyone said at the time. I've heard the rhetoric ad nauseum. Android "used to be bad", but it is good now. No one has problems... until you cant get one that works and then everyone comes out and says "well except for X problems on any device not made by Y" and that info always conflicts with what all the other Android people say. Hearing it today just reinforces my concerns about Android. It's the same statements repeated now as then.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

                Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

                when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

                That's exactly what everyone said at the time. I've heard the rhetoric ad nauseum. Android "used to be bad", but it is good now. No one has problems... until you cant get one that works and then everyone comes out and says "well except for X problems on any device not made by Y" and that info always conflicts with what all the other Android people say. Hearing it today just reinforces my concerns about Android. It's the same statements repeated now as then.

                But you can say the same thing about iPhones - features that simply don't exist. Who knows.. I might just be blowing smoke up my own ass right now, I haven't been on a modern Android in nearly 2 years.

                that said, my wife has a S6 and likes it just fine, never complains, it does what she wants - but then again, like me she barely uses its. She has email, calendar, texting, calling and words with friends - she's happy.

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                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                  @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                  @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                  @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

                  Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

                  when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

                  That's exactly what everyone said at the time. I've heard the rhetoric ad nauseum. Android "used to be bad", but it is good now. No one has problems... until you cant get one that works and then everyone comes out and says "well except for X problems on any device not made by Y" and that info always conflicts with what all the other Android people say. Hearing it today just reinforces my concerns about Android. It's the same statements repeated now as then.

                  But you can say the same thing about iPhones - features that simply don't exist. Who knows.. I might just be blowing smoke up my own ass right now, I haven't been on a modern Android in nearly 2 years.

                  that said, my wife has a S6 and likes it just fine, never complains, it does what she wants - but then again, like me she barely uses its. She has email, calendar, texting, calling and words with friends - she's happy.

                  This is the same conversation every time. Yes, even at the time I knew lots of people that adored their Androids. But none of them could get me a device that was reliable and, it turned out, most of them simply didn't use theirs enough to know that they were missing calls, texts or emails. In case after case the people who raved about their phones simply weren't in situations to notice or care when communications channels went out for a day or two (until the phone rebooted) and so they felt that they worked great because, for them not needing them to do anything, they did.

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                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                    But you can say the same thing about iPhones - features that simply don't exist.

                    I don't understand what you are trying to say here. The issues that I have had with Androids I cannot say about iPhones. None of them. The functionality of working batteries, ability to make calls, get texts and emails has remained working on iPhone and could never work (all together) on Android for us.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                      @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

                      Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

                      when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

                      That's exactly what everyone said at the time. I've heard the rhetoric ad nauseum. Android "used to be bad", but it is good now. No one has problems... until you cant get one that works and then everyone comes out and says "well except for X problems on any device not made by Y" and that info always conflicts with what all the other Android people say. Hearing it today just reinforces my concerns about Android. It's the same statements repeated now as then.

                      But you can say the same thing about iPhones - features that simply don't exist. Who knows.. I might just be blowing smoke up my own ass right now, I haven't been on a modern Android in nearly 2 years.

                      that said, my wife has a S6 and likes it just fine, never complains, it does what she wants - but then again, like me she barely uses its. She has email, calendar, texting, calling and words with friends - she's happy.

                      This is the same conversation every time. Yes, even at the time I knew lots of people that adored their Androids. But none of them could get me a device that was reliable and, it turned out, most of them simply didn't use theirs enough to know that they were missing calls, texts or emails. In case after case the people who raved about their phones simply weren't in situations to notice or care when communications channels went out for a day or two (until the phone rebooted) and so they felt that they worked great because, for them not needing them to do anything, they did.

                      Oh I know I'm not that out of touch. I might be able to go a few hours without realizing, but never a whole day.
                      But I'm sure there are others who are.. hey - they kids using instagram.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @Dashrender said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @wrx7m said in Looking for a new phone here is the top 5:

                        @scottalanmiller Why do you "need" iOS?

                        Because I travel internationally and the ability to get repairs and support and for the devices to be reliable are critical for safety. I've made the mistake of switching off of iOS to Android while travelling before and was left dangerously out of touch. A mistake that I won't repeat.

                        when was that? Android is much more mature today. I'll definitely give you that Android 2-4 years ago could leave you wanting compared to the "it just works" of the iPhone.

                        That's exactly what everyone said at the time. I've heard the rhetoric ad nauseum. Android "used to be bad", but it is good now. No one has problems... until you cant get one that works and then everyone comes out and says "well except for X problems on any device not made by Y" and that info always conflicts with what all the other Android people say. Hearing it today just reinforces my concerns about Android. It's the same statements repeated now as then.

                        But you can say the same thing about iPhones - features that simply don't exist. Who knows.. I might just be blowing smoke up my own ass right now, I haven't been on a modern Android in nearly 2 years.

                        that said, my wife has a S6 and likes it just fine, never complains, it does what she wants - but then again, like me she barely uses its. She has email, calendar, texting, calling and words with friends - she's happy.

                        This is the same conversation every time. Yes, even at the time I knew lots of people that adored their Androids. But none of them could get me a device that was reliable and, it turned out, most of them simply didn't use theirs enough to know that they were missing calls, texts or emails. In case after case the people who raved about their phones simply weren't in situations to notice or care when communications channels went out for a day or two (until the phone rebooted) and so they felt that they worked great because, for them not needing them to do anything, they did.

                        Oh I know I'm not that out of touch. I might be able to go a few hours without realizing, but never a whole day.
                        But I'm sure there are others who are.. hey - they kids using instagram.

                        Problem is... it's all three. We tested Android after Android and normally one or two functions would work. Only if you consistently get calls, texts AND emails all the time would you notice. Most people do not, so pretty much everyone thought that their phones were working. Like me right now, I could go months without getting a call and not notice at all. I accept no voice calls and my phone is set to not ring. So I would never know.

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