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    • alexntgA
      alexntg @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

      It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

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        scottalanmiller @alexntg
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        @alexntg said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

        It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

        And a major licensing issue.

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        • alexntgA
          alexntg @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @alexntg said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

          It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

          And a major licensing issue.

          All it takes is a single SA subscription or VDA license to fix. That's not major. The issue would still exist on VirtualBox.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @alexntg
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            @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

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            • alexntgA
              alexntg @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

              To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                @alexntg said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

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                • alexntgA
                  alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @alexntg said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                  To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                  So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                  Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                    To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                    So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                    Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

                    But they sell Ultimate explicitly with that option. 4 VMs on your desktop, no SA.

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                      technobabble
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                      It's like watching a tennis match. Seriously this is good information for those of us looking at keeping an XP pc alive using VM.

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                        To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                        So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                        Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

                        But they sell Ultimate explicitly with that option. 4 VMs on your desktop, no SA.

                        Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                          @alexntg said:

                          Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

                          In the Microsoft official material it stated that Ultimate was a non-SA version of Enterprise that was identical in every way.

                          According to this chart the VDI licensing was the same between the two...

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

                            In the Microsoft official material it stated that Ultimate was a non-SA version of Enterprise that was identical in every way.

                            According to this chart the VDI licensing was the same between the two...

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

                            Can you link the MS official material? I'm getting my info from http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/4/3d42bdc2-6725-4b29-b75a-a5b04179958b/licensing_windows7_with_VM_technologies.docx

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