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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @bbigford
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      @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

      @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

      @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

      I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

      Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

      What does Apple have that any business would want in the other direction, though?

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      • bbigfordB
        bbigford @Jason
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        @Jason said in Remotely control a Mac:

        @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

        @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

        @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

        I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

        Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

        There are free VNC tools, I would think some of the freebie VNC servers would work on macs and not just the apple built in server

        There's Free, Personal (small scale business), and Enterprise (large scale business)... Free is for "individual, personal use", I'm guessing we wouldn't be allowed to use that because it's being used in a business setting.

        It doesn't even have to have a wide range of functionality. I just need to be able to remotely connect and launch OSX Server (rarely).

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

          @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

          @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

          @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

          I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

          Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

          What does Apple have that any business would want in the other direction, though?

          Please answer your own question - as a person who's never used a mac (ok well not since the Macintosh) I have no clue.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bbigford
            last edited by

            @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

            @Jason said in Remotely control a Mac:

            @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

            @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

            @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

            I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

            Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

            There are free VNC tools, I would think some of the freebie VNC servers would work on macs and not just the apple built in server

            There's Free, Personal (small scale business), and Enterprise (large scale business)... Free is for "individual, personal use", I'm guessing we wouldn't be allowed to use that because it's being used in a business setting.

            It doesn't even have to have a wide range of functionality. I just need to be able to remotely connect and launch OSX Server (rarely).

            Just use the open source ones. Why use a commercial VNC variant?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Remotely control a Mac:

              @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

              @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

              @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

              @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

              I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

              Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

              What does Apple have that any business would want in the other direction, though?

              Please answer your own question - as a person who's never used a mac (ok well not since the Macintosh) I have no clue.

              So Apple has nothing we'd want. what's he looking for, then?

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

                @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

                I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

                Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

                What does Apple have that any business would want in the other direction, though?

                That's a good question, to which I really don't have an answer. I guess the only one I can think of is OSX Server? I mean licenses for VNC are cheap, I just don't want to cough up any money for something I might be able to find for free.

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                  @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                  @Jason said in Remotely control a Mac:

                  @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                  @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

                  @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

                  I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

                  Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

                  There are free VNC tools, I would think some of the freebie VNC servers would work on macs and not just the apple built in server

                  There's Free, Personal (small scale business), and Enterprise (large scale business)... Free is for "individual, personal use", I'm guessing we wouldn't be allowed to use that because it's being used in a business setting.

                  It doesn't even have to have a wide range of functionality. I just need to be able to remotely connect and launch OSX Server (rarely).

                  Just use the open source ones. Why use a commercial VNC variant?

                  Which open source ones have you used that are any good? Not doing much so very limited functionality is ok.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
                    last edited by

                    @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                    @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                    @aaronstuder said in Remotely control a Mac:

                    @BBigford If you know the right people the price is the same 😉

                    I'm sure there are people just loading up VNC (free) and using it for business... we finally got all licensed compliant.

                    Just frustrating that Microsoft gives away their RDP client to Apple for free, but nothing that goes the other way for businesses to stay compliant.

                    What does Apple have that any business would want in the other direction, though?

                    That's a good question, to which I really don't have an answer. I guess the only one I can think of is OSX Server? I mean licenses for VNC are cheap, I just don't want to cough up any money for something I might be able to find for free.

                    VNC is free and has been since the 1990s.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      http://www.davidtheexpert.com/post.php?id=5

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        https://sourceforge.net/projects/osxvnc/

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                          http://www.davidtheexpert.com/post.php?id=5

                          I made the mistake of associating VNC with RealVNC.

                          https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @bbigford
                            last edited by

                            @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                            http://www.davidtheexpert.com/post.php?id=5

                            I made the mistake of associating VNC with RealVNC.

                            https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/

                            Oh, yeah that's just one of many VNC vendors. They came along long after VNC was already everywhere. Mac OSX and Linux have VNC baked in and totally free. RealVNC is a commercial, supported VNC derivative primarily for Windows which is the only platform without a native VNC included with it.

                            Why are you not using the built in VNC of the Mac? What's making that not a good option?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              https://sourceforge.net/projects/echovnc/

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                              • bbigfordB
                                bbigford @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                http://www.davidtheexpert.com/post.php?id=5

                                I made the mistake of associating VNC with RealVNC.

                                https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/

                                Oh, yeah that's just one of many VNC vendors. They came along long after VNC was already everywhere. Mac OSX and Linux have VNC baked in and totally free. RealVNC is a commercial, supported VNC derivative primarily for Windows which is the only platform without a native VNC included with it.

                                Why are you not using the built in VNC of the Mac? What's making that not a good option?

                                I saw you can enable screen sharing and use vnc://x.x.x.x between Macs... I guess I just need to download an open source VNC client and see if that works...

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @bbigford
                                  last edited by

                                  @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                  @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                  http://www.davidtheexpert.com/post.php?id=5

                                  I made the mistake of associating VNC with RealVNC.

                                  https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/

                                  Oh, yeah that's just one of many VNC vendors. They came along long after VNC was already everywhere. Mac OSX and Linux have VNC baked in and totally free. RealVNC is a commercial, supported VNC derivative primarily for Windows which is the only platform without a native VNC included with it.

                                  Why are you not using the built in VNC of the Mac? What's making that not a good option?

                                  I saw you can enable screen sharing and use vnc://x.x.x.x between Macs... I guess I just need to download an open source VNC client and see if that works...

                                  VNC is VNC. The VNC server built into the Mac will work with any VNC client anywhere.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                                    @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                    use vnc://x.x.x.x between Macs... I guess I just need to download an open source VNC client and see if that works...

                                    Why do you need a client? Same question as with the server. Mac has everything that you need included. What's the purpose of replacing the built in and supported VNC client with a third party one?

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                      @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                      use vnc://x.x.x.x between Macs... I guess I just need to download an open source VNC client and see if that works...

                                      Why do you need a client? Same question as with the server. Mac has everything that you need included. What's the purpose of replacing the built in and supported VNC client with a third party one?

                                      I'm trying to remotely control a Mac with Windows. Microsoft's RDP client from the App Store didn't seem to work. Even after enabling screen sharing on the Mac, I couldn't use Microsoft RDC from my Windows workstation. But after downloading TightVNC, I could use that to control the Mac after enabling screen sharing.

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford
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                                        @scottalanmiller I was just trying to get around having to load another program on my Windows workstation, and instead just run the mstsc program for everything.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @bbigford
                                          last edited by

                                          @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                          @scottalanmiller I was just trying to get around having to load another program on my Windows workstation, and instead just run the mstsc program for everything.

                                          Oh, so the issue is that you want Windows to have the VNC protocol handled natively. That's a Windows failing, not a Mac one. It's Windows lacking the client to connect to EVERYTHING that isn't Windows.

                                          Macs come with the server, client AND the client for attaching to Windows, too. Apple actually does everything right here, it is Windows alone that is lacking.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @bbigford
                                            last edited by

                                            @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                            @BBigford said in Remotely control a Mac:

                                            use vnc://x.x.x.x between Macs... I guess I just need to download an open source VNC client and see if that works...

                                            Why do you need a client? Same question as with the server. Mac has everything that you need included. What's the purpose of replacing the built in and supported VNC client with a third party one?

                                            I'm trying to remotely control a Mac with Windows. Microsoft's RDP client from the App Store didn't seem to work. Even after enabling screen sharing on the Mac, I couldn't use Microsoft RDC from my Windows workstation. But after downloading TightVNC, I could use that to control the Mac after enabling screen sharing.

                                            Right, because an RDP client talks to RDP servers, not to VNC servers. Enabling VNC on the Mac would not be expected to make an RDP client see it.

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