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    • thwrT
      thwr
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      My 0.02c: Whatever the future way will be (mod first or not), just keep it transparent.

      IMHO, a good community can't live without at least a certain amount of moderation. At least not with thousands of members. Problem is, moderation is and will probably ever be a tightrope walk, keeping it transparent should pay back at some point.

      About the product: Funny name, but I would have a hard time to explain my documentations cover sheet ("How to use Fck" or "About Fck".) to my boss 🙂

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        personally the F word doesn't bother me.... but seeing the C word, which is used in London by the gallon I wouldn't appreciate seeing.

        It's a locality thing.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom
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          Swearing doesn't have the connotation that it used to. It's far more common, and sometimes, many times, to get a point across to the correct effect, it's necessary. It's all about reasonableness though. Too often rules are made because someone took something to some extreme and ruins it for the 99.9% of people who don't abuse the system.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @thwr
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            @thwr said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

            My 0.02c:

            Stingy bastard 😉

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @thwr
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              @thwr said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

              My 0.02c: Whatever the future way will be (mod first or not), just keep it transparent.

              IMHO, a good community can't live without at least a certain amount of moderation. At least not with thousands of members. Problem is, moderation is and will probably ever be a tightrope walk, keeping it transparent should pay back at some point.

              About the product: Funny name, but I would have a hard time to explain my documentations cover sheet ("How to use Fck" or "About Fck".) to my boss 🙂

              Good point. I should have stuck a comment into the thread about why it was renamed. Didn't even occur to me as it felt so benign when I did it. My own oversight, no reason not to have explained it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
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                @thanksajdotcom said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                Swearing doesn't have the connotation that it used to.

                Is that really true, Just curiosity really. But my gut says that it is less common now, not more. And that it used to be common speech and now we more broadly feel "offended" by it. Might be purely my impression.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                  Swearing doesn't have the connotation that it used to.

                  Is that really true, Just curiosity really. But my gut says that it is less common now, not more. And that it used to be common speech and now we more broadly feel "offended" by it. Might be purely my impression.

                  I am not sure if people are more broadly offended, or just we cater more to the minority that are offended, period.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                    I am not sure if people are more broadly offended, or just we cater more to the minority that are offended, period.

                    Good point, that's probably more accurate.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                      @thwr said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                      My 0.02c:

                      Stingy bastard 😉

                      Narf... ok, your point 😉

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                      • Minion QueenM
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                        I a only able to read some of this. There is a community guideline against swearing. Been there since day one.

                        I do not moderate all swear words but on a few other moderators advice i did need for it to be stated that we shouldn't allow it.

                        I cant find it from my phone but take a look at the guidelines.

                        I will read all this through more carefully later when its not on my tiny screen.

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                              gjacobse @aaron-closed account
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                              @aaron said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                              I was initially surprised by the title change without a comment. I do understand why it's beneficial to the community to have more PG headlines.

                              I also think the submission's title could have been phrased differently (adding additional words) to reflect the contents of the discussion.

                              I'm extremely surprised that GitHub even allows that project's name.

                              There was some discussion on just that - why would you name your project that,.. and why was it allowed. And while I have not gone and looked, is it even still available?

                              Every person will have their own take, their own opinion and own way to phrase a thread title. You want it to be something that draws a person to read and contribute, but not point them off..

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                                @aaron said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                This thread is a good example of changing headlines, when did crap change to poo? I don't care much for either word, but it changed without a moderator comment. I doubt there's mod logs, but transparency is neat 🙂

                                As shown in the first message of this thread - there is Mod logging. Few are able to see that. Maybe the headline was changed but the person who started the thread ( @scottalanmiller ) - you have the ability to do that to any over your own topics.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @aaron-closed account
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                                  @aaron said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                  This thread is a good example of changing headlines, when did crap change to poo? I don't care much for either word, but it changed without a moderator comment. I doubt there's mod logs, but transparency is neat 🙂

                                  It wasn't moderated, I change it like the second that I posted.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @aaron-closed account
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                                    @aaron said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                    I doubt there's mod logs, but transparency is neat 🙂

                                    There is, actually! They are not complete though, which is weird, but they do catch renames consistently.

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                                    • IRJI
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                                      In social settings, I do swear (curse as we call it in the south). However, I think f*** and b**ch are totally inappropriate to use anywhere you consider professional.

                                      I am not saying I've never said f*** at work, but when I say it in passing during frustration it is quickly forgotten. I try never to use it on websites that I consider professional and related to my career. When you say it in person when it's needed it makes sense, but since it isn't recorded it's completely forgotten.

                                      Also I know people that use f*** just as common as they would use any other word. While I don't see anything wrong with it morally, it really decreases the value of the word. If you say f*** 30 times a day, it no longer means anything, but if you use it once a month or so when it is appropriate it carries more weight.

                                      I agree with @scottalanmiller and believe f*** and b**ch should be moderated. Words that some consider swear words such as sht and dmn should not be moderated in my opinion. If the word damn offends you, you are going to have a shitty life.

                                      P.S. I did not see the original thread, so I am just giving my opinion in general.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                        @IRJ said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                        P.S. I did not see the original thread, so I am just giving my opinion in general.

                                        Thread itself was perfectly fine. No one questioned that at all. It was all about the thread title.

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                                            @aaron said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                            Or maybe NodeBB needs to fix a bug... On mobile it's still showing me the old name in the alerts :P. That's been a lot of my confusion between these two topics.

                                            Oh, weird. I was wondering how you even knew about the original topic name as it was only there for ten seconds, tops.

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