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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @anthonyh
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      @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

      I had the same thing happen with my home lab (granted single host) but what happened was I was out of space on the array for the hypervisor, from snapshotting and VM space (also non-thin provisioned).

      And was using the total array, even after removing snapshots. I checked with the XS forums, they said to reboot the hypervisor.

      insert expletive here

      So, the reason why this is a problem is because I cannot take snapshots of said VM. And because I cannot take snapshots, I cannot (easily) back it up.

      I wonder if I can cycle through the hosts and reboot them one at a time...if that would work.

      Or, I can take the shortcut and make the SR bigger...but then that's just wasted disk space.

      Hmmm...

      Can you not live migrate the systems from the host with the issue to another host, and then reboot it?

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      • anthonyhA
        anthonyh @dafyre
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        @dafyre said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

        @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

        @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

        I had the same thing happen with my home lab (granted single host) but what happened was I was out of space on the array for the hypervisor, from snapshotting and VM space (also non-thin provisioned).

        And was using the total array, even after removing snapshots. I checked with the XS forums, they said to reboot the hypervisor.

        insert expletive here

        So, the reason why this is a problem is because I cannot take snapshots of said VM. And because I cannot take snapshots, I cannot (easily) back it up.

        I wonder if I can cycle through the hosts and reboot them one at a time...if that would work.

        Or, I can take the shortcut and make the SR bigger...but then that's just wasted disk space.

        Hmmm...

        Can you not live migrate the systems from the host with the issue to another host, and then reboot it?

        How do I know which host is causing the locks?

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        • DanpD
          Danp @dafyre
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          @dafyre said:

          Can you not live migrate the systems from the host with the issue to another host, and then reboot it?

          Not sure that would work in this case.

          @anthonyh said :

          This is a 16 host pool... How do I know which host is causing the locks?

          So, you have 16 XS hosts connected to a network storage array?

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          • anthonyhA
            anthonyh @Danp
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            @Danp said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

            @dafyre said:

            Can you not live migrate the systems from the host with the issue to another host, and then reboot it?

            Not sure that would work in this case.

            @anthonyh said :

            This is a 16 host pool... How do I know which host is causing the locks?

            So, you have 16 XS hosts connected to a network storage array?

            Well, I have 16 hosts connected to a 3PAR FibreChannel SAN. So more-or-less yes.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @anthonyh
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              @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

              So, you have 16 XS hosts connected to a network storage array?

              Well, I have 16 hosts connected to a 3PAR FibreChannel SAN. So more-or-less yes.

              Ah okay, thank goodness it's a 3PAR. I was very afraid that we were going to hear something like MSA, MD or Equalogic.

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              • anthonyhA
                anthonyh @scottalanmiller
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                I have to say it's been a decent setup for what it is. I would prefer a vSAN setup of some sort utilizing local storage on the hosts, but it does the job for now. 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @anthonyh
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                  @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

                  I have to say it's been a decent setup for what it is. I would prefer a vSAN setup of some sort utilizing local storage on the hosts, but it does the job for now. 🙂

                  At sixteen hosts that's not trivial. You could do something like a Scale HC3 at that size, but most solutions are not meant to scale up like that. Around the dozen server mark (more or less) a good SAN solution starts to be a pretty obvious choice just because it is so cost effective to consolidate to that degree. 3PAR is one of the three best names in the SAN game, IMHO, and I'd likely stick with that unless you are really looking to redesign heavily. Now, two 3PARs that are synced, yeah, that would be the way to go. But, budgets.

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                  • anthonyhA
                    anthonyh @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

                    @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 Troubleshoot HBA SR Disk Space:

                    I have to say it's been a decent setup for what it is. I would prefer a vSAN setup of some sort utilizing local storage on the hosts, but it does the job for now. 🙂

                    At sixteen hosts that's not trivial. You could do something like a Scale HC3 at that size, but most solutions are not meant to scale up like that. Around the dozen server mark (more or less) a good SAN solution starts to be a pretty obvious choice just because it is so cost effective to consolidate to that degree. 3PAR is one of the three best names in the SAN game, IMHO, and I'd likely stick with that unless you are really looking to redesign heavily. Now, two 3PARs that are synced, yeah, that would be the way to go. But, budgets.

                    Good to know it's not a completely crazy setup. 😄

                    I really have no complaints about the 3PAR setup we have. Support is good. I have an InformOS upgrade scheduled for Thursday. The upgrade will give us data deduplication which I'm excited to try.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      HPE 3PAR is one of the big boys. That's basically HPE Integrity technology under the hood. Way better reliability than a Proliant which is pretty rocking as it is. Between the high end hardware and high end support it's a pretty darn reliably bit of kit. Right up there with the high end EMC and HDS stuff. Of course, having only one unit, there is no escaping the SPOF fears, but that SPOF is really reliable.

                      With sixteen hosts connected to it, the value is in the cost savings primarily. It's a cost effective strategy for standard to slightly high reliability. I wouldn't call it HA quite, it doesn't likely make it quite that far but it is more reliable than a single Proliant server setup almost certainly, but not as reliable as a single Integrity server. It's all on a scale.

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                      • anthonyhA
                        anthonyh
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                        So, are you saying I shouldn't migrate to a Netgear NAS?

                        All joking aside, it sounds like the consensus thus far is a reboot? I can cycle the hosts one by one...I suppose it's worth a try...

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Sounds reasonable.

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                          • anthonyhA
                            anthonyh
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                            I'll start by rebooting the host the VM is running on and see if I get lucky...

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              How many hosts have that particular LUN mounted? If it's only one, that should be the only host that needs to be rebooted.

                              You did mention this was a 2 TB LUN, right?

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                              • anthonyhA
                                anthonyh @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender Yes, 2 TB LUN. All 16 hosts are attached to said LUN.

                                Hey, perhaps I can detatch/reattach the LUN? Shut down the VM first, of course.

                                Thoughts?? Would this trigger cleanup?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  I have absolutely no experience at this... Good luck!

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                                  • anthonyhA
                                    anthonyh
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                                    Welp, rebooting the host that the VM resided on did not clear up any disk space. Hmmm...

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