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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      the same HHS link that you provided, is the one that said employers were covered as having to comply.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
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        @coliver said in HIPPA:

        @Jason said in HIPPA:

        @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

        @Jason said

        So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

        They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

        Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

        http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

        Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

        They do? I have never talked to or seen an employer that requires this. It actually may be illegal to request this in NY.

        I think it is illegal most everywhere. I've never had something like that even mentioned or suggested. Even in Texas I've never heard of anything like that. I'm pretty sure it is illegal in most of the larger states. (NY, CA, TX, etc.)

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said >

          I think it is illegal most everywhere. I've never had something like that even mentioned or suggested. Even in Texas I've never heard of anything like that. I'm pretty sure it is illegal in most of the larger states. (NY, CA, TX, etc.)

          Yeah, pretty sure that's illegal, or could at least be fought.

          Some professions in some states may require you to self-report.

          And if the drug test divulged the results, that would be a HIPAA violation.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I know that as an employer I had to get training on things that I could never ask for. That was certainly one of them.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by BRRABill

              From:
              http://work.chron.com/employer-right-ask-prescriptions-take-14956.html

              Voluntary Reporting
              Although employers cannot ask what prescriptions an employee is taking outright, they may be able to ask an employee about prescription medications if those medications can inhibit the employee’s ability to work or put others in danger. For example, firefighters and police officers might be required to self-report any prescriptions taken if it affects their ability to work. Those in administrative positions, however, cannot be asked to disclose prescription medications.

              Drug Testing
              Drug testing requirements vary greatly by state. Some states prohibit random drug testing, while other states allow it. During a drug test, an employee may be asked to report any medications taken. Although the employee does not legally have to answer, not reporting these medications may result in loss of employment, especially if the drug test is positive for job-inhibiting substances – prescribed or not.

              Privacy and HIPAA
              Some states allow an employer to contact an employee’s physician if her drug test comes back positive for prescription medications. For public employees, this is not a violation of privacy, according to Fair Measures, Inc. For private employees, the rules are different. According to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, employers can request physician notes, but only to administer sick leave, health insurance or workers’ compensation. Employers cannot request health information about an employee from his physician without the employee’s authorization. HIPAA does not, however, protect your employment records – only your health plan and other medical-related records.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                HIPAA does not, however, protect your employment records – only your health plan and other medical-related records.

                Of course, employment law protects those records.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:

                  I know that as an employer I had to get training on things that I could never ask for. That was certainly one of them.

                  One more question: are you pregnant, taking any prescriptions to help you get pregnant, or of any religions that have feelings about being pregnant?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                    @scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:

                    I know that as an employer I had to get training on things that I could never ask for. That was certainly one of them.

                    One more question: are you pregnant, taking any prescriptions to help you get pregnant, or of any religions that have feelings about being pregnant?

                    And how would you describe this person who may or may not be getting your pregnant?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said

                      And how would you describe this person who may or may not be getting your pregnant?

                      We should make a Top Ten list of the most improper questions to ask in an interview.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Are you opposed to taking ruffies while at work?

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
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                          @Jason

                          You should change your voicemail message to make it sound like a HIPAA law firm. Maybe that'll get the message across.

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                            Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                            @Jason

                            You should change your voicemail message to make it sound like a HIPAA law firm. Maybe that'll get the message across.

                            Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Jason
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                              @Jason said

                              Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

                              If it was just her calling you, and perhaps she wanted a date, I'd overlook it.

                              Anything else, yeah, not cool.

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                                Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                @Jason said

                                Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

                                If it was just her calling you, and perhaps she wanted a date, I'd overlook it.

                                Anything else, yeah, not cool.

                                Hahaha.. No.

                                and Medical/Safety can not date or have a relationship with employees.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Someone got it off the form - did they have HIPAA related reason to see/learn the number originally? If yes, I see a very lawyer intensive problem ahead of anyone/everyone.

                                  One could argue that once he learned the information for him it's considered known info, so he can use any time thereafter. As for giving it to others - I could also see the argument the same as before - once he knows it.. and knows it away from HIPAA info, he can do whatever he wants with it.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    Where did you get that snippet from?

                                    To my knowledge employers are not covered under the HIPAA rule. In the same way a manufacturer you give medical info to is not.

                                    Not applicable here, because a different circumstance, but by definition employers are not covered under the rule to my knowledge.

                                    Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Jason
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                                      @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                      @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                      @Jason said

                                      So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                      They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                      Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                      http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                      Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                      Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said

                                        Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.

                                        And hence not covered under the HIPAA rule.

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                                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                          @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                          @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                          @Jason said

                                          So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                          They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                          Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                          http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                          Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                          Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                          No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                            @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                            @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                            @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                            @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                            @Jason said

                                            So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                            They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                            Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                            http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                            Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                            Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                            No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

                                            This makes me sad for the country.

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