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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @ntoxicator
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      @ntoxicator said in [Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?](/topic/8946/get-large-disk-images]

      I'll agree with this. Otherwise <---- Gun to head, or we be $$$$$ throwing big money for full on NAS/SAN solution for HA setup.

      Now that I don't really understand. You wouldn't need HA for the SAN/NAS situation if you aren't doing it with local storage.

      For example, you have one XS server, and you direct attach a SAN/NAS storage solution to it. Have you made it more complex more points of failure, sure, but so much so that you need to make it HA? Probably not, at least not in this case. Why not? Because you're reason for going to SAN/NAS isn't HA, it's to solve a single storage presentation problem, which you would be solving through either iSCSI or NFS or SMB most likely.

      But I still wouldn't do this over a spanning solution.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        XS's VHD limitation is akin to the old LBA limitation.
        And in this case you'd be using external storage to solve it by doing to a different connection method/protocol, bypassing XS altogether.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @ntoxicator
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          @ntoxicator said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

          @Dashrender said in [

          Wait a min, what? isn't what you describe - a storage SPOF an inverted pyramid of doom?

          That is indeed inverted pyramid, per Scottalanmiller descriptions and article.

          When I mentioned IPOD earlier - I was thinking that their was an expectation that many servers would be accessing the storage... I see not that wasn't what this discussion was about - so I stand corrected.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            Wonder why XS hasn't moved to VHDX?

            Any thoughts?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

              Wonder why XS hasn't moved to VHDX?

              Any thoughts?

              Or QCOW, the native format???

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              • ntoxicatorN
                ntoxicator @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                @BRRABill said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                Wonder why XS hasn't moved to VHDX?

                Any thoughts?

                Or QCOW, the native format???

                I second this. QCOW would be better.

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                • ntoxicatorN
                  ntoxicator
                  last edited by

                  Still no reason for folks to run ProxMox in Business environment? I know I got hit over the head before making this mention

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    I wonder how the conversion would go for EXT3 to QCOW, along with the VM conversion.....

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      Right, doesn't have to be VHDX, just anything that supports larger than 2TB.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                        Is there a simple way to make a QCOW based file that XS will use?

                        Only stuff I can find is converting from qcow2 to VHD or the other way around.

                        I found a good utility to convert from .xva to .img, then just used qemu to convert the .img to .qcow2. Sadly that doesn't help us here haha.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
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                          Is there a limit to how many 2TB VDs you can span?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill 16 in XS.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said

                              @BRRABill 16 in XS.

                              That answer confuses me.

                              Do you mean you can only have 16 VDs for a VM in XS?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                                last edited by

                                @ntoxicator said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                                Still no reason for folks to run ProxMox in Business environment? I know I got hit over the head before making this mention

                                I can't imagine any reason for it. It's got a few basic issues that will never go away...

                                • It's an endemically evil company that you don't want to associate with
                                • The core idea is bad - mashing two different virtualization solutions together on one box
                                • They just make the GUI, not the products, so they themselves likely know nothing special about it
                                • It's non-standard so getting assistance or support is hard
                                • It has no real benefits to offset the negatives.
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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  You can have 16 vDisk per VM in XS.

                                  Yes

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                                    I wonder how the conversion would go for EXT3 to QCOW, along with the VM conversion.....

                                    EXT4 -> XFS

                                    VHD -> QCOW

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                                    • ntoxicatorN
                                      ntoxicator @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                                      @BRRABill 16 in XS.

                                      Applies To: Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2
                                      A spanned volume is a dynamic volume consisting of disk space on more than one physical disk. If a simple volume is not a system volume or boot volume, you can extend it across additional disks to create a spanned volume, or you can create a spanned volume in unallocated space on a dynamic disk.
                                      You need at least two dynamic disks in addition to the startup disk to create a spanned volume. You can extend a spanned volume onto a maximum of 32 dynamic disks.

                                      So can Span 16 disk, as 16 is limit with XS

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Get Large Disk Images on XenServer 6.5 on Local Filesystem?:

                                        I wonder how the conversion would go for EXT3 to QCOW, along with the VM conversion.....

                                        EXT4 -> XFS

                                        VHD -> QCOW

                                        Yes... thanks... lol... I meant I'm curious how the process to upgrade an existing system would actually perform...

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said

                                          You can have 16 vDisk per VM in XS.

                                          Yes

                                          is there any limit on the Windows side? (I've never had to span that many disks, was just wondering.)

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @ntoxicator
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                                            @ntoxicator

                                            Thanks.

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