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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      I love it when my Java tarts.

      java cream tart

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
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        @Dashrender You could allow folks to run multiple versions of say... Office... Or older versions of a Web Browser (IE 7 or 8), for instance...

        Or you could use it to deploy applications. Upgrade from Office 2013 to 2016 the next time your user starts Word... No more mass-scale network consuming rollouts, when, instead the users would get the updates the next time they start the app.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @dafyre
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          @dafyre said:

          I know there was a Java app that generally would tart in 3 - 5 seconds, but under App-V, it could take a minute+!

          Was that every time for App-V or only the first time during the download of the app?

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @dafyre said:

            I know there was a Java app that generally would tart in 3 - 5 seconds, but under App-V, it could take a minute+!

            Was that every time for App-V or only the first time during the download of the app?

            Every time. And I did check, and the App was cached appropriately and everything. Just one of those oddball apps that didn't play nicely.

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            • KrisSmithK
              KrisSmith @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              I'm sure there are uses, but I don't know what they are - when/why would you want this or App-V?

              I have a raft of uses,

              Dynamic application delivery, We had 300 applications 2000 workstations and 18000 users.
              You cant put all the software on all the workstations but the uses want their software wherever they are.

              Licence management, You can enforce concurrent Licences, as well as named user licences by only allowing users to access the software they are entitled to

              Application conflicts, You have software that does not normally want to install on the same machine running togeter

              Application deployment without Admin rights. Upload the package to a portal and its available to any workstation instantly (Adobe CC suite running in 30 sec)

              Save on disk space. As Jukebox only pulls down the data that is needed to run an application it has a much smaller install footprint than traditional installs.

              OK that may not be relevant to you,
              What about Games,
              With Steam you have to download that game (20Gb or so?) before you can try it only to discover you dont rely like it any how.
              With Jukebox you would start the game, it would pull what it needs to get you going and bring down the rest as ans when you need it. If you never need it.

              See, now you have got me Plugging the system...

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                So I should be using this to manage me 1200 Steam games? That would actually be quite handy.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @KrisSmith
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                  @KrisSmith said:

                  See, now you have got me Plugging the system...

                  This thread is about that product.. plug away!

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                  • KrisSmithK
                    KrisSmith @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    So I should be using this to manage me 1200 Steam games? That would actually be quite handy.

                    Unfortunately I don't think we can manage your steam games as it is.
                    It would be an alternative to the Steam service.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
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                      @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

                        additionally, does it work in offline mode?

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                        • KrisSmithK
                          KrisSmith @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

                          additionally, does it work in offline mode?

                          Applications can be made avalible offline yes. With an expiry if you want to that the App is removed (or made inactive) after a time.

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                          • KrisSmithK
                            KrisSmith @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said:

                            @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

                            It caches locally so it only needs to pull new data. The cache can be share as well so the second user to launch an application on a workstation will not need to pull data that is already in the cached.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @KrisSmith
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                              @KrisSmith said:

                              @dafyre said:

                              @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

                              It caches locally so it only needs to pull new data. The cache can be share as well so the second user to launch an application on a workstation will not need to pull data that is already in the cached.

                              That is something that I would expect. It wouldn't make sense to have 10 caches for 10 users on the same workstation. 🙂

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                              • KrisSmithK
                                KrisSmith @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said:

                                @KrisSmith said:

                                @dafyre said:

                                @KrisSmith How does JukeBox handle app caching? Does it pull down everything live every time, or does it just cache locally what it needs, and then pull down what is missing when it needs it?

                                It caches locally so it only needs to pull new data. The cache can be share as well so the second user to launch an application on a workstation will not need to pull data that is already in the cached.

                                That is something that I would expect. It wouldn't make sense to have 10 caches for 10 users on the same workstation. 🙂

                                True, but many people cant see past the "One user One Workstation" Model

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                                • KrisSmithK
                                  KrisSmith @KrisSmith
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                                  @KrisSmith Of course thats the Current product, Delivering Windows software. The Article linked at the top is about bringing the same technology to Linux. Anyone whoo has ever tried to "manage" a linux desktop estate will appreciate that...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @KrisSmith
                                    last edited by scottalanmiller

                                    @KrisSmith said:

                                    Anyone whoo has ever tried to "manage" a linux desktop estate will appreciate that...

                                    I have, never had issues with it. And that was before tools like Ansible. Linux desktops are actually pretty easy to manage (he says from his Linux desktop.)

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                                    • KrisSmithK
                                      KrisSmith @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @KrisSmith said:

                                      Anyone whoo has ever tried to "manage" a linux desktop estate will appreciate that...

                                      I have, never had issues with it. And that was before tools like Ansible. Linux desktops are actually pretty easy to manage (he says from his Linux desktop.)

                                      Fair enough.

                                      The desktops at my old place needed to have different software on them each and every hour so we were back to trying to cram everything on one machine or have different rooms for different software.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @KrisSmith
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                                        @KrisSmith said:

                                        The desktops at my old place needed to have different software on them each and every hour so we were back to trying to cram everything on one machine or have different rooms for different software.

                                        That's a really weird issue. What caused the need for constantly changing software requirements on an hourly basis across the desktop farm? And why not use centralized storage? With Linux you can easily have the software stored centrally.

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                                        • KrisSmithK
                                          KrisSmith @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller University with ever changing classes. You get a login storm every hour so its not good to be running 100+ desktops over a network.

                                          Jukebox also allows you to deploy software in seconds rather than minutes of hours
                                          ( The full adobe CS suite took several hours to do an automated install on windows, Less than 30 seconds to be up and running with Jukebox)

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
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                                            Didn't Jukebox used to have a free version for testing, or was that another product I am thinking of?

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