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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
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      Gateway = bridge mode?

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @FATeknollogee said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @FATeknollogee said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Breffni-Potter said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Why would you want a terminal server intentionally dropping off of the network?

        They want to stop access for over-seas consultants at certain times.

        Killing VPN access to the network is not a good way to go about that. Using AD to stop logins would be far better.

        I thought we are getting rid of the VPN?

        But you are asking about installing a VPN. I'm confused.

        Currently, we use a Site to Site VPN & remote users connect using Windows VPN

        You are just removing your old VPN and looking at a new one. Both are fully VPNs.

        I hear you, that "VPN" moniker is just so yesterday...I much prefer to say ZT 😃

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned
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          But it's still a VPN 😉

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
            last edited by

            @Breffni-Potter said:

            But it's still a VPN 😉

            Yeah, but we need to make it sound like its a really big deal (jk). Like the "cloud"

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @FATeknollogee said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @FATeknollogee said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Breffni-Potter said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Why would you want a terminal server intentionally dropping off of the network?

              They want to stop access for over-seas consultants at certain times.

              Killing VPN access to the network is not a good way to go about that. Using AD to stop logins would be far better.

              I thought we are getting rid of the VPN?

              But you are asking about installing a VPN. I'm confused.

              Currently, we use a Site to Site VPN & remote users connect using Windows VPN

              You are just removing your old VPN and looking at a new one. Both are fully VPNs.

              I hear you, that "VPN" moniker is just so yesterday...I much prefer to say ZT 😃

              But ones a product, ones a thing. ZT is the brand of VPN you are using.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee said:

                @Breffni-Potter said:

                But it's still a VPN 😉

                Yeah, but we need to make it sound like its a really big deal (jk). Like the "cloud"

                then you call it "Software Defined Networking".

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Yes, at $4 you can't afford not to 🙂

                  Almost sounds to good to be true!

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    But ones a product, ones a thing. ZT is the brand of VPN you are using.

                    True that

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                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Yes, at $4 you can't afford not to 🙂

                      I paid the $4 and I am not even over 10 devices yet! 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @anonymous said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Yes, at $4 you can't afford not to 🙂

                        I paid the $4 and I am not even over 10 devices yet! 🙂

                        Big spender 🙂

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by Alex Sage

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Big spender 🙂

                          I support the products I use 🙂

                          Well, when they make it affordable that is..... cough, cough @olivier cough, cough

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            For the really mission critical enterprise bits, they offer support.

                            https://www.zerotier.com/product-ss.shtml

                            They are still working on the structure of how they'll do it. But depending on your needs, might be helpful.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre
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                              Wow... 3 pages of replies already, lol.

                              There's a few things to note... If you install ZeroTier on a device that is part of active directory, by default, it will add the ZeroTier IP address into AD's DNS servers.

                              To fix that, you go into the Windows Adapters list, and edit the ZT Adapter, and set the IP address, and DNS to "use dhcp" -- they'll just be blank to start with. Then you go in and uncheck the "Register this connection's address in dns" checkbox, and check your DNS server to make sure your ZT IP address is gone.

                              If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                              What I have done is set up my own DNSMasq server on one of my Linux ZT devices, and just add that DNS server to the DNS settings of the NIC in Windows or Linux.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said:

                                Wow... 3 pages of replies already, lol.

                                Slow day.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                                  What issue have you seen there?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    Wow... 3 pages of replies already, lol.

                                    There's a few things to note... If you install ZeroTier on a device that is part of active directory, by default, it will add the ZeroTier IP address into AD's DNS servers.

                                    To fix that, you go into the Windows Adapters list, and edit the ZT Adapter, and set the IP address, and DNS to "use dhcp" -- they'll just be blank to start with. Then you go in and uncheck the "Register this connection's address in dns" checkbox, and check your DNS server to make sure your ZT IP address is gone.

                                    If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                                    Did they fix that - the last time I tried it I couldn't get the adapter to stop registering with DNS - FYI, the server in question was a DC running DNS locally.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                                      What issue have you seen there?

                                      The issue this caused me was that my computer that don't have ZT installed would attempt to connect to the ZT IP instead of the LAN IP.

                                      I'm assuming DNS was answering requests in a round robin effect and causing the problem.

                                      I realize that the desire with ZT is that all machines should be running ZT - but I wasn't ready to pull that trigger.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                                        What issue have you seen there?

                                        The issue this caused me was that my computer that don't have ZT installed would attempt to connect to the ZT IP instead of the LAN IP.

                                        I'm assuming DNS was answering requests in a round robin effect and causing the problem.

                                        This is exactly the problem. I work around it by setting up a DNS server on the ZT IP range using DNSMasq and telling it to not register.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          If you do not do that, any client device has a potential to get the ZT IP address of your server, and that will cause problems.

                                          What issue have you seen there?

                                          The issue this caused me was that my computer that don't have ZT installed would attempt to connect to the ZT IP instead of the LAN IP.

                                          I'm assuming DNS was answering requests in a round robin effect and causing the problem.

                                          This is exactly the problem. I work around it by setting up a DNS server on the ZT IP range using DNSMasq and telling it to not register.

                                          In this case, you have to manually manage all DNS entries, right? so no chance of using IPv6?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            In this case, you have to manually manage all DNS entries, right? so no chance of using IPv6?

                                            Does that rule out IPv6?

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