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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
      last edited by FATeknollogee

      Let's say we have 3 types of users connection to an application via RDP (2012R2 RDS)
      Type 1: Users are on the LAN (I know, I know @scottalanmiller some of us are a 'lil behind with implementing a LANless design)
      Type 2: Users connect via VPN (from home/remote office)
      Type 3: Users (are contractors), they connect via VPN from overseas

      This seems like a good use case for ZeroTier

      Pls advise!

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        Yes you could use it like that no problem.

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m
          last edited by

          Based on what I have tried out with ZT, this would work but I am not sure how well DNS works with ZT. If someone has more experience with that aspect I would love to know.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
            last edited by

            @Breffni-Potter said:

            Yes you could use it like that no problem.

            Could you elaborate?

            I'd like to eliminate the VPN & in an ideal world have the overseas connection "on" at specific times

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            • wrx7mW
              wrx7m
              last edited by

              How many devices do you want to run on ZT?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Yup, sounds like a good case for ZT.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                  last edited by

                  @wrx7m said:

                  Based on what I have tried out with ZT, this would work but I am not sure how well DNS works with ZT. If someone has more experience with that aspect I would love to know.

                  DNS on its own works just fine. Do you have a specific use case in mind that you are wondering about?

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @wrx7m
                    last edited by

                    @wrx7m said:

                    How many devices do you want to run on ZT?

                    50/100, as many as possible. If it works as good as it sounds.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller - I am a Pertino customer so I am just playing with ZT for home lab use.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee Will you host your own network connector or have ZT host it?

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                        • Deleted74295D
                          Deleted74295 Banned
                          last edited by Deleted74295

                          It's built to handle thousands of devices, no problem at all.

                          Zero Tier is engineered very differently to Pertino, so although you can use them for the same end, there are some core differences.

                          You just need tosetup a Zero Tier network, either hosted by them or by you, install the endpoints on a test machine and your TS, and you should be able to RDP onto it.

                          It's very easy to do.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @wrx7m
                            last edited by

                            @wrx7m said:

                            @FATeknollogee Will you host your own network connector or have ZT host it?

                            The ZT price seems very reasonable, so I would go the ZT hosted route.

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned @FATeknollogee
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                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              I'd like to eliminate the VPN & in an ideal world have the overseas connection "on" at specific times

                              Right, off the top of my head I don't know if this is possible through Zero Tier.

                              Can you control this via the terminal server itself? Group policy for different user accounts allowed to log on or off depending on time of day?

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
                                last edited by

                                @Breffni-Potter said:

                                @FATeknollogee said:

                                I'd like to eliminate the VPN & in an ideal world have the overseas connection "on" at specific times

                                Right, off the top of my head I don't know if this is possible through Zero Tier.

                                Can you control this via the terminal server itself? Group policy for different user accounts allowed to log on or off depending on time of day?

                                Do I smell a ZeroTier feature request for @adam-ierymenko ?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said:

                                  @wrx7m said:

                                  @FATeknollogee Will you host your own network connector or have ZT host it?

                                  The ZT price seems very reasonable, so I would go the ZT hosted route.

                                  Yes, at $4 you can't afford not to 🙂

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m
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                                    Would love to know if they have already started on a gateway.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
                                      last edited by

                                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                                      @FATeknollogee said:

                                      I'd like to eliminate the VPN & in an ideal world have the overseas connection "on" at specific times

                                      Right, off the top of my head I don't know if this is possible through Zero Tier.

                                      Can you control this via the terminal server itself? Group policy for different user accounts allowed to log on or off depending on time of day?

                                      I'm sure it could be done via GP, I was kinda looking for a "cooler" way of doing it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said:

                                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                                        @FATeknollogee said:

                                        I'd like to eliminate the VPN & in an ideal world have the overseas connection "on" at specific times

                                        Right, off the top of my head I don't know if this is possible through Zero Tier.

                                        Can you control this via the terminal server itself? Group policy for different user accounts allowed to log on or off depending on time of day?

                                        Do I smell a ZeroTier feature request for @adam-ierymenko ?

                                        Not likely, they specifically do not want to laden ZT up with features. If you want to turn ZT on and off at specific times, it already supports that through simple scripting. ZT itself need not handle that.

                                        User accounts could not be used here, remember this is a networking service, so if you turned it off, the entire terminal server would be offline.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Why would you want a terminal server intentionally dropping off of the network?

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                                          • Deleted74295D
                                            Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Why would you want a terminal server intentionally dropping off of the network?

                                            They want to stop access for over-seas consultants at certain times.

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