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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
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      So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

      So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

      My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

      Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @gjacobse
        last edited by

        @gjacobse said:

        So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

        So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

        My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

        Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

        Do you have an offsite backup? I've been uploading all my documents to Amazon Cloud Drive using a fuse mount. It works really well.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver
          Currently no...of sorts.

          I have GD(x5), OD, Dropbox, and BOX,.. not to mention OC and ODfB..

          But I don't keep much on them. I might do more with ODfB for the office though.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said:

            @coliver
            Currently no...of sorts.

            I have GD(x5), OD, Dropbox, and BOX,.. not to mention OC and ODfB..

            But I don't keep much on them. I might do more with ODfB for the office though.

            You can get unlimited photo storage and 5Gb video storage for 6$/year. Or Unlimited everything for $60/year. It is a nice system too.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @johnhooks said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @johnhooks said:

              I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

              what kind of phone?

              Nexus 5

              How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

              Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

              Depends what degree of security that you want. Port knocking, TLS, IP locking, etc. are available features. For a lot of companies just going to strong passwords will suffice.

              Strong passwords are fine - I basically don't want random hackers (ok ANY hackers) using my PBX to make expensive calls.

              Fail2Ban can work on SIP connections. That would help a lot.

              Fail2Ban comes with the FreePBX ISO. I typed the password incorrectly on my cell phone twice and was banned. It works really well.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @johnhooks said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @johnhooks said:

                I'm surprised how well my phone works over ZeroTier to my PBX.

                what kind of phone?

                Nexus 5

                How difficult is it to secure an Asterisk based PBX to publish directly to the internet?

                Getting away from the need to use things like ZT or VPNs would be awesome!

                I have it running on my home network, that's why I did it this way.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @gjacobse
                  last edited by

                  @gjacobse said:

                  So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                  So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                  My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                  Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                  Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    @gjacobse said:

                    So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                    So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                    My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                    Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                    Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software. One of the beautiful aspects of software raid is you don't have to worry about the firmware of the raid controller you purchased when it dies. A lot of the time they stop manufacturing them which is a headache. At the same point I'm sure SAM has a reason for recommending that. I assume this is going to be a raid 10 with 4 drives.

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said:

                      Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software.

                      No NAS box has hardware RAID. Not aware of a single one on the market for the past decade. It's all MD RAID (Linux software RAID) which is more enterprise, to normal standards, than ZFS, but it is ALL software, no matter what. ZFS is great on Solaris, but on Linux is not native and while it can work okay is pretty weird.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @johnhooks said:

                        Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                        To a business, the big thing is support.

                        To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                          To a business, the big thing is support.

                          To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                          This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @gjacobse said:

                            So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                            So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                            My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                            Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                            Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                            The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                              last edited by

                              @gjacobse said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @gjacobse said:

                              So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.

                              So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.

                              My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.

                              Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.

                              Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                              The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.

                              Yeah, that's not a little desktop chassis.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                                That's WAY bigger than you'd want for this. Just a little two bay unit.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                    To a business, the big thing is support.

                                    To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                                    This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                                    grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                                    Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                      To a business, the big thing is support.

                                      To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                                      This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                                      grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                                      Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                                      It is beautiful though.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @coliver
                                        last edited by MattSpeller

                                        @coliver I want one, just not $250 for a basic computer case want one.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                                          last edited by

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                          To a business, the big thing is support.

                                          To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                                          This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                                          grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                                          Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                                          I want you all to think of this situation like you're talking to your daughter and trying to convince her to dump her boyfriend who rides a motorcycle, wears a leather jacket and seems high all the time. Her answer will always be "...but I love him". That's my answer.

                                          ....but I love it

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @MattSpeller
                                            last edited by

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

                                            To a business, the big thing is support.

                                            To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

                                            This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

                                            grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

                                            Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

                                            Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh baby. I take it all back. I don't $450 before tax want one at all.

                                            Price: CDN$ 437.48

                                            http://www.amazon.ca/Silverstone-Tek-Mini-ITX-Computer-DS380B/dp/B00IAELTAI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454693376&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=SilverStone+Technology+Premium+Mini-ITX+%2F+DTX+Small+Form+Factor+NAS

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