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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      But the more basic that they are, the more Linux and Chomebooks make sense. It's only advanced power users that would want the extra cost and complications of Windows, right?

      iTunes screams advanced user to you?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        I've also figured out a way around the Linux/ChromeBook answer for future reference.

        "The user is very basic and needs/wants iTunes."

        🙂

        Wait a second.. iTunes is now all in the cloud, no local client needed.
        The mobile device will sync wirelessly.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          But the more basic that they are, the more Linux and Chomebooks make sense. It's only advanced power users that would want the extra cost and complications of Windows, right?

          iTunes screams advanced user to you?

          Not smart user, but not basic. It's NOT simple to use, install or maintain. It's not something for people who want systems to "just work", exactly the opposite.

          Just like, why would they use Windows if they were basic... why make simple things hard just for fun?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            iTunes on Mint

            Youtube Video

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by

              BAH! LOL.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                But the more basic that they are, the more Linux and Chomebooks make sense. It's only advanced power users that would want the extra cost and complications of Windows, right?

                iTunes screams advanced user to you?

                Yes, because it means you expect the user to plug it into the computer and not just sync wirelessly.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @BRRABill said:

                  I've also figured out a way around the Linux/ChromeBook answer for future reference.

                  "The user is very basic and needs/wants iTunes."

                  🙂

                  Wait a second.. iTunes is now all in the cloud, no local client needed.
                  The mobile device will sync wirelessly.

                  I've been on iPhones for a long time, never needed iTunes. No idea what it is for other than hardware recovery and it really, really sucks having to install it just for that and take all of the problems that it creates.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    There is a really good Linux alternative to iTunes that will connect with iPods/iPhones. The only downside (if you can call it that) is that it doesn't have the itunes store.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      I could not find instructions telling me how to do this. In fact, I found the opposite - telling me it couldn't be done without 3rd party add-ons.

                      I thought that mine opened Chrome itself by default, why would there be a desktop at all, I wonder?

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        Wait a second.. iTunes is now all in the cloud, no local client needed.
                        The mobile device will sync wirelessly.

                        Not if you use it for your local library. Or want to use iTunes Music.

                        I wish it was. I'd have already moved to it. And is the reason I've been using Google Play almost exclusively.

                        One of the things ML really has spurred me to do. Get to the cloud, young man.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said:

                          There is a really good Linux alternative to iTunes that will connect with iPods/iPhones. The only downside (if you can call it that) is that it doesn't have the itunes store.

                          That's the biggest upside of all.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            There is a really good Linux alternative to iTunes that will connect with iPods/iPhones. The only downside (if you can call it that) is that it doesn't have the itunes store.

                            That's the biggest upside of all.

                            LOL.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said:

                              Not if you use it for your local library. Or want to use iTunes Music.

                              Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                I could not find instructions telling me how to do this. In fact, I found the opposite - telling me it couldn't be done without 3rd party add-ons.

                                I thought that mine opened Chrome itself by default, why would there be a desktop at all, I wonder?

                                that's what I was wondering - why is there a desktop, you can't do anything with it other than change the picture.. but really? if you're using it.. wouldn't you have Chrome open all the time covering it up?

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  I rarely use the iTunes store.

                                  So many cheaper options.

                                  I have a ton of gift cards though. Was happy to be able to use them for iCloud backup storage.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver
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                                    Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Not basic things. Weird, convoluted DRM music from Apple. Remember, basic here, why would a basic user do that?

                                      Because they want one place for all their music? THey don't want to open 4 different players to access all their stuff?

                                      Because they want to use iTunes Music, because it's the best option out ther for iDevice users at this moment?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Wait a second.. iTunes is now all in the cloud, no local client needed.
                                        The mobile device will sync wirelessly.

                                        Not if you use it for your local library. Or want to use iTunes Music.

                                        I wish it was. I'd have already moved to it. And is the reason I've been using Google Play almost exclusively.

                                        One of the things ML really has spurred me to do. Get to the cloud, young man.

                                        Can't you play music you've purchased in the iTunes store through the web interface?
                                        why do you need a local copy? Just stream?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          I feel like we have the onion effect... one bad decision leading to another. End users can have a super simple experience, Chromebooks and Mint attest to that, but choosing weird DRM software, choosing to be dependent on a bizarre and awful locally installed application for no reason (and one from a third party that doesn't work well at all with the chosen platform), using an OS based on name and not on it meeting their needs.... start unravelling it and it becomes a small bad decision or lack of foresight leading to a dependency on something poor and it just snowballs and pretty soon tons of money and effort that no one can trace back as to why the system doesn't "just work" like it should.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @coliver
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                                            @coliver said:

                                            Doesn't Amazon now do DRM free music? That's where you should recommend they purchase from.

                                            I never recommend buying from Apple. Ever.

                                            Almost always Amazon (especially since you can often get the physical CD for free if you want it).

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