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    • coliverC
      coliver
      last edited by coliver

      Why do they need a VNXe for a vSAN setup? Isn't that typically done with all of the storage directly on the host? Maybe they are using it for a backup appliance?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Which still doesn't make any sense, local storage > anything else (in 99% of cases)

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          • coliverC
            coliver @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....

            Right... but then you would move up to the next chassis that has a ton of drive bays available. It would still be less expensive then the VNXe.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
                last edited by

                And moving from XenServer to VMWare.... sounds like they needed to spend their budget before the end of the year last year.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.

                  They are going to be sorry when that VNXe forgets it has two controllers and crashes spectacularly (experience).

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    He thought that he had vSAN, then realized it was an IPOD. Oops. Everything bad here. Textbook bad design, dollars to donuts he used a salesperson to do his job and got burned, moving from the best (Xen) to the worst (VMware), on and on.

                    And maybe the saddest thing is that he posts this all proud like we aren't going to hang out heads in shame that he missed EVERY discussion about "how to talk to vendors", "SAN", inverted pyramids of doom and even the stock Dell sales scam of the last decade on SW. He definitely never asked anyone to check this over before turning the company's IT decision making over to a slimy sales guy.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller But Scott it's a great start to the new year for that sales person!

                      I mean come on, by January 14th this was sold, and paid for!

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
                        last edited by

                        Here is one just getting started. No problems yet (other than overspending, as always) but lots of misunderstandings. The typical SMB misuse of NAS and SAN has helped to lead the OP a little ways down the garden path.

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1400197-san-schooling-huge-cost-differences-help-me-understand-the-differences-please

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                          Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                            Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

                            Yeah the OP requested that the SW Moderators delete the post... there is a cached copy without the OP's responses to the topic still on SW under scott's topic

                            Somewhere in there...

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                              Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

                              Yeah the OP requested that the SW Moderators delete the post... there is a cached copy without the OP's responses to the topic still on SW under scott's topic

                              Somewhere in there...

                              /popcorn

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                Here it is... the cached version.

                                http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PX3rvobJoEsJ:https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-yup+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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                                • mlnewsM
                                  mlnews @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...

                                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed

                                  Apparently we're all to mean for the Spiceworks community? Thread not found now.

                                  It was taken down almost immediately. After the first questions about it the OP was too embarrassed by it. He got his info wrong then his exciting project turned out to be an embarrassing mistake. He started off okay and we were like "awesome, good job, good thing you didn't do.... the thing he actually did but had misstated because he didn't know the terms he was using."

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

                                      A golf shop has a 2 host setup? Damn are they really a golf empire?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by coliver

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        So this golf shop wants to virtualize and needs to figure out storage for their 2 host setup...

                                        And someone instantly recommends a SAN. Haha. The OP also wants to use RAID 5... did they not do any research before coming up with this?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Did you see RAID 5E!!! The worst RAID idea that there has ever been. So much worse than regularly RAID 5. Where do these ideas come from?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            Sometimes I feel like I'm reliving ground-hog day over and over again....

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