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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      The version that works on the VM, rather than at the hypervisor.

      StorageCraft would do this as well, but I don't believe there is a free version.

      No free SC version, but all versions are fully featured.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        The version that works on the VM, rather than at the hypervisor.

        StorageCraft would do this as well, but I don't believe there is a free version.

        Any agent based solution I have to assume work work with XS because it assumes the OS is baremetal installed (or at least doesn't care where it's installed at all).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          The version that works on the VM, rather than at the hypervisor.

          StorageCraft would do this as well, but I don't believe there is a free version.

          Any agent based solution I have to assume work work with XS because it assumes the OS is baremetal installed (or at least doesn't care where it's installed at all).

          Correct. VMs don't know that they are VMs. So agents always work.

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            Alex Sage
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            Ummm..... No.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
              last edited by scottalanmiller

              @anonymous said:

              Ummm..... No.

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              It just is. Sorry. You have the XOA as has been mentioned a few times above. You are NOT looking at the free version but the XOA Demo of the Enterprise one. Get the real free one, there are NO limitations.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 can you do an export from your free version to show him?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @anonymous said:

                  Ummm..... No.

                  It just is. Sorry. You have the VOA as has been mentioned a few times above. You are NOT looking at the free version but the VOA Demo of the Enterprise one. Get the real free one, there are NO limitations.

                  FYI, there is no OVA for the free one - you have to manually download some packages and do the install yourself, there is no image.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender right, the free version has to be installed manually.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Part of the issue here is calling something "the free one." XO offers itself in multiple free ways. A fully free install with zero limitations and the XOA which is also free but very limited. XO itself has no limitations. The "free one" does depending on if you opt for the full or limited one.

                      But there is no question: All XO features are available for free.

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                        Alex Sage
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                        This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
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                          https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/from_the_sources.html

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @anonymous said:

                            This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?

                            https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/from_the_sources.html

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
                              last edited by

                              @anonymous said:

                              Ummm..... No.

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                              Yah you're using the paid pre-built version without support.... the free version works.

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                                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                But there is no question: All XO features are available for free.

                                If you don't use the appliance and install it by hand. That's a big IF.

                                There website points you to the appliance and it isn't clear that there is a different in the appliance.....

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Alex Sage
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                                  @anonymous said:

                                  This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?

                                  probably better to say, the "fully featured" free one as both versions are real versions and both are free.

                                  Also, since the installation of the fully featured one is so simplistic why even offer the limited edition free one? It does nothing but frustrate people and make something appear to be less than it is.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
                                    last edited by

                                    @anonymous I also have a topic on the mangolassi.it forums as well as several people have uploaded several containerized versions for simple install into Xen Server...

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @Dashrender
                                      last edited by stacksofplates

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      This is VERY unclear. Where are instructions to install the "real" free version?

                                      probably better to say, the "fully featured" free one as both versions are real versions and both are free.

                                      Also, since the installation of the fully featured one is so simplistic why even offer the limited edition free one? It does nothing but frustrate people and make something appear to be less than it is.

                                      It has a 15 day trial support. So if you want to upgrade within that window you can just use the same image. It will also update to newer versions unlike the open source one.

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                                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        WARNING: we don't make support for this manual installation. We cannot guarantee anything if used in production. Use it at your own risks.

                                        They should offer the Premium free to IT Pros for home use only, no support. They we can test this stuff at home and buy for work.....

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                                          Alex Sage
                                          last edited by Alex Sage

                                          WARNING 2: It's impossible to predict the result of a build for any Node and NPM versions. Please consider to use XOA before trying to play with the manual build, which can be difficult if you are not used to NodeJS and NPM.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Alex Sage
                                            last edited by

                                            @anonymous said:

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            WARNING: we don't make support for this manual installation. We cannot guarantee anything if used in production. Use it at your own risks.

                                            They should offer the Premium free to IT Pros for home use only, no support. They we can test this stuff at home and buy for work.....

                                            That's essentially what they did, but you can use it at work if you want. You just need to install the dependencies and turn it on.

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