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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @iroal
      last edited by

      @iroal said:

      Hi.

      Again this year I'm going to try replace our SonicWall NSA 2400, 6-7 years old.

      After look many options I'd like Pfsense but i'm not sure if it's the best option.

      Now we use Sonicwall for Vpn (10 people), Firewall and Content Filter for about 50 people and 5 networks connections.

      I don't think I have a big budget if they approve buy a new one Firewall.

      What are best options instead SonicWall ?

      Thanks.

      I think that pfSense is a viable option if you don't have a big budget. You can get the VPN stuff built in (it uses OpenVPN for this, IIRC), as well as the content filtering. The firewall works pretty good for me in my lab environment.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        pfSense is better than SonicWall, IMHO, but why not just use Ubiquiti? At $95, you really can't beat it.

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          pfSense is better than SonicWall, IMHO, but why not just use Ubiquiti? At $95, you really can't beat it.

          Content Filtering & SSL VPN are what Ubiquiti currently lacks. (unless they have a box which does it)

          @iroal said:

          I don't think I have a big budget if they approve buy a new one Firewall.

          Surely in the proposal for a new firewall, you tell them what budget is required as part of the proposal? Otherwise they'll feel misled.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            pfSense is better than SonicWall, IMHO, but why not just use Ubiquiti? At $95, you really can't beat it.

            Content Filtering & SSL VPN are what Ubiquiti currently lacks. (unless they have a box which does it)

            It lacks SSL VPN? Could have sworn that was in there.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Confirmed, Ubiquiti definitely does SSL VPN.

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              • Deleted74295D
                Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Confirmed, Ubiquiti definitely does SSL VPN.

                Link for reference 🙂 Mine are saying they don't

                https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Possibility-of-adding-web-based-SSL-VPN/td-p/342495

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Confirmed, Ubiquiti definitely does SSL VPN.

                  Link for reference 🙂 Mine are saying they don't

                  https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Possibility-of-adding-web-based-SSL-VPN/td-p/342495

                  I thought they had OpenVPN included in the recent version?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Here are some links of people providing configuration info for it...

                    https://blog.laslabs.com/2013/06/configure-openvpn-with-x-509-ubiquiti-edgerouter-lite/

                    http://mediarealm.com.au/articles/2014/03/ubiquiti-edgemax-router-openvpn-client-setup/

                    https://blog.laslabs.com/2013/08/openvpn-server-configuration-script-ubiquiti-edgerouter-lite/

                    ANd here are the official docs...

                    https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/204949694-EdgeMAX-OpenVPN-Site-to-Site

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Confirmed, Ubiquiti definitely does SSL VPN.

                      Link for reference 🙂 Mine are saying they don't

                      https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Possibility-of-adding-web-based-SSL-VPN/td-p/342495

                      I thought they had OpenVPN included in the recent version?

                      Last many versions. Since 2013 at least.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                        last edited by

                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Confirmed, Ubiquiti definitely does SSL VPN.

                        Link for reference 🙂 Mine are saying they don't

                        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Possibility-of-adding-web-based-SSL-VPN/td-p/342495

                        That link actually points out that they DO have it. That's why people are carefully saying words like "web based" and "clientless". They have non-web, cliented SSL VPN, which is by far the more common. This is asking for something above and beyond SSL VPN.

                        OpenVPN is the most common SSL VPN on the market and is easily 80% of it.

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                        • Deleted74295D
                          Deleted74295 Banned
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                          0_1452524991895_Ubiquiti VPN.jpg

                          I stand corrected then 🙂

                          Might end up playing with these boxes at some point.

                          So VPN is fine, the OP is just missing content filtering.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Content Filtering Example with Ubiquiti:

                            https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205223340-EdgeMAX-Ad-blocking-content-filtering-using-EdgeRouter

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              @scottalanmiller
                              To most, OpenVPN is a VPN type of its own.

                              SSL VPN means a VPN accessed by WebGUI to almost all SMB out there.
                              http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/SSL-VPN

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                It's pretty rare to find something that the Ubiquiti VyOS doesn't handle. It's the most advanced router software on the market for a reason.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @scottalanmiller
                                  To most, OpenVPN is a VPN type of its own.

                                  SSL VPN means a VPN accessed by WebGUI to almost all SMB out there.
                                  http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/SSL-VPN

                                  That's a problem when the main product in the category and most uses of it are different than people define it. Very confusing. OpenVPN is just as much SSL VPN as any other type. And even the term clientless isn't correct, it's just a client that is downloaded on demand.

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                                    Deleted74295 Banned
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                                    https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-pro/

                                    Watch the video, skip ahead to 30 seconds in to watch "Cysco" sales reps being beat up...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      https://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-users/2005-05/msg00246.html

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller
                                        To most, OpenVPN is a VPN type of its own.

                                        SSL VPN means a VPN accessed by WebGUI to almost all SMB out there.
                                        http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/SSL-VPN

                                        That's a problem when the main product in the category and most uses of it are different than people define it. Very confusing. OpenVPN is just as much SSL VPN as any other type. And even the term clientless isn't correct, it's just a client that is downloaded on demand.

                                        All very true and all very much a method of VPN access I would never desire on my network.

                                        If the person truly needs VPN access, then I will set up a client and make sure the connection is truly secure.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          That was OpenVPN's take on it. They were like "we aren't making this because we are a security company and that's not secure."

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                                          • Deleted74295D
                                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                                            Bit off topic.

                                            But I wish Ubiquiti would make non POE managed switches 🙂

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