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      LAH3385 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      @Dashrender said:

      In the case of RDP - what do the system resources utilization look like?

      resources utilization on the my PC, hypervisor, or VM?

      That would depend, are you RDPing into the hypervisor or VM? in either case the hypervisor could be at fault. I'd start by looking at the hypervisor. I know in VMWare you can see the resource utilization of all on a chart, so you should be able to see everything you need from within the hypervisor I would guess.

      I just gave the VM more virtual processor from 1 to 4. It does seem more responsive while RDP. But the progress bar when saving still there. The graph on Performance (Task Manager) does not seem to be indicating anything out of ordinary. The graph goes up and down like a heart beat on cross over ethernet and wobbling on internet.

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      So when you say saving the file is slow... this is when you are saving the file locally on the server or remotely from a workstation?

      2 scenarios. 1st I noticed that opening files, saving, deleting, moving seem laggy. 2nd is when I remote into the VM via RDC it seem very laggy and delay. The mouse seem fine but clicking anything seem delayed. This is how I came to the thought of poor network bandwidth

      Could be. Does the image update quickly?

      How do I check? It should be within couple of seconds.. or every second.

      @marcinozga said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      @Dashrender said:

      When a file is written to your vSAN, the process doing the writing most likely won't reply that the process is completed until all nodes in the vSAN report that the file has been written.

      If there is a bottleneck on the communication between the vSAN servers, this could introduce your delay.

      I believe you said you are using x-over cables between the servers for the vSAN, so you likely don't have a switch related problem there. But you could still have bandwidth/latency issues there.

      How to check if the bandwidth is saturated on cross over? It does not seem to use much at all.

      Starwind console should have graphs available for all kinds of resources utilisation. Btw, you don't need crossover cable on 1Gbit and faster ethernet cards.

      I couldn't find where the graph would be located at. But this is the setting on Synchronization priority
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        marcinozga
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        What antivirus (if any) is running on that server? What happens if you disable it?

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          LAH3385 @marcinozga
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          @marcinozga said:

          What antivirus (if any) is running on that server? What happens if you disable it?

          No AntiVirus. If any.. it would be w/e built-in into Windows server 2K12 R2

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            dafyre
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            You could also try to move that synchronization slider a few notches towards the middle. That should give you a balance of sync and client access speed. It looks like you have it set to just focus on syncing. This could likely be what is hurting you.

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              LAH3385 @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              You could also try to move that synchronization slider a few notches towards the middle. That should give you a balance of sync and client access speed. It looks like you have it set to just focus on syncing. This could likely be what is hurting you.

              I moved it to 9/10 client access. Very little to no different.

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                dafyre @LAH3385
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                @LAH3385 said:

                @dafyre said:

                You could also try to move that synchronization slider a few notches towards the middle. That should give you a balance of sync and client access speed. It looks like you have it set to just focus on syncing. This could likely be what is hurting you.

                I moved it to 9/10 client access. Very little to no different.

                Might be a wise thing to set it back closer to the defaults.

                Look at the Perfmon Counters for Disk Read / Writes and Queue Length for both of your servers that are running Starwind?

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                  LAH3385 @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  @LAH3385 said:

                  @dafyre said:

                  You could also try to move that synchronization slider a few notches towards the middle. That should give you a balance of sync and client access speed. It looks like you have it set to just focus on syncing. This could likely be what is hurting you.

                  I moved it to 9/10 client access. Very little to no different.

                  Might be a wise thing to set it back closer to the defaults.

                  Look at the Perfmon Counters for Disk Read / Writes and Queue Length for both of your servers that are running Starwind?

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                  What am I looking for? How long should I run the test?

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                    Dashrender
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                    set the counters, then move some files around, then take a screen shot and post.

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                      LAH3385 @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      set the counters, then move some files around, then take a screen shot and post.

                      Idle 1min
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                      File Transfer 11 minutes
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                        LAH3385 @LAH3385
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                        @LAH3385

                        These are some tests I conduct.
                        visor1
                        visor2 (the host where VM resides at the moment)
                        VM
                        File size 1.8GB (contain 450 files of 4MB each)

                        visor1 to visor2
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                        visor2 to visor1
                        0_1452194777230_upload-5180d670-c663-4f04-856d-30e38f833b4a
                        visor1 to VM
                        0_1452195144939_upload-cf2436ed-6db6-4eec-b145-535bd5c566bf
                        visor2 to VM
                        0_1452195249146_upload-a93df16d-4510-4eec-9748-b14281cec9c1

                        Connection from my PC to visor1/2 or VM is around 6MB/s to 11MB/s (average around 7MB/s)

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                          dafyre @LAH3385
                          last edited by dafyre

                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          You could also try to move that synchronization slider a few notches towards the middle. That should give you a balance of sync and client access speed. It looks like you have it set to just focus on syncing. This could likely be what is hurting you.

                          I moved it to 9/10 client access. Very little to no different.

                          Might be a wise thing to set it back closer to the defaults.

                          Look at the Perfmon Counters for Disk Read / Writes and Queue Length for both of your servers that are running Starwind?

                          0_1452192335353_upload-f8415521-98e9-4429-bd11-eeb1e68fdad2

                          What am I looking for? How long should I run the test?

                          I saw you post your permon screen... Look under the disk performance tabs and see what you are getting?

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                            LAH3385 @dafyre
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                            @dafyre

                            Weird thing is only hypervisor1 able to view report. visor2 and VM return with error
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                            I really do not think my disk is the bottle neck here.
                            I did found a setting on GPO [Network/Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS)] It should not have impact on Foreground transfer.

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                              original_anvil Vendor @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              This could be related to the disk performance and not the network performance.

                              Just because the document is being written to a network share doesn't mean that is the issue.

                              +1

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                                original_anvil Vendor @LAH3385
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                                Starwind console should have graphs available for all kinds of resources utilisation. Btw, you don't need crossover cable on 1Gbit and faster ethernet cards.

                                I couldn't find where the graph would be located at. But this is the setting on Synchronization priority
                                0_1452184423155_upload-864c3478-4cc1-418f-9abe-4a38e2d7b6c9

                                It's on the Performance tab. But you can check the Windows performance monitor as well.
                                As about the priority - I'd recommend you to keep it in the middle. It relates to the synchronization after failures (FastSync or FullSync)

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                                  original_anvil Vendor @LAH3385
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                                  @LAH3385 said:

                                  @LAH3385

                                  These are some tests I conduct.
                                  visor1
                                  visor2 (the host where VM resides at the moment)
                                  VM
                                  File size 1.8GB (contain 450 files of 4MB each)

                                  visor1 to visor2
                                  0_1452194713907_upload-ff1e7c09-796d-406f-a189-b6bb37bc723d
                                  visor2 to visor1
                                  0_1452194777230_upload-5180d670-c663-4f04-856d-30e38f833b4a
                                  visor1 to VM
                                  0_1452195144939_upload-cf2436ed-6db6-4eec-b145-535bd5c566bf
                                  visor2 to VM
                                  0_1452195249146_upload-a93df16d-4510-4eec-9748-b14281cec9c1

                                  Connection from my PC to visor1/2 or VM is around 6MB/s to 11MB/s (average around 7MB/s)

                                  Actually measuring the performance with the file copy is not the best way
                                  http://blogs.technet.com/b/josebda/archive/2014/08/18/using-file-copy-to-measure-storage-performance-why-it-s-not-a-good-idea-and-what-you-should-do-instead.aspx

                                  I'd recommend you to run the IOmeter benchmark against StarWind RAM disk through the networks. It should show the real numbers

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                                    original_anvil Vendor
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                                    @LAH3385 BTW, as I mentioned in the other post to you, we are welcomed to jump with you on the remote session to look deeper into the issue and try to solve it. I'm going to PM you right now.

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