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    • art_of_shredA
      art_of_shred Banned @dafyre
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      @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

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        dafyre @art_of_shred
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        @art_of_shred said:

        @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

        I honestly don't know. But that thing hurt if you touched it the wrong way... I had grown up and moved out before he finally replaced it, lol.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @art_of_shred
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          @art_of_shred said:

          @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

          I have a 208v appliance (screw auger) that is ground over the neutral line. I did a ton of research when setting it up and apparently it is pretty common.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @coliver
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            @coliver said:

            @art_of_shred said:

            @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

            I have a 208v appliance (screw auger) that is ground over the neutral line. I did a ton of research when setting it up and apparently it is pretty common.

            Hopefully not getting zapped by it, lol.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              @coliver said:

              @art_of_shred said:

              @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

              I have a 208v appliance (screw auger) that is ground over the neutral line. I did a ton of research when setting it up and apparently it is pretty common.

              Hopefully not getting zapped by it, lol.

              Nah, I tied it into the house ground independently of the neutral bar. On a recommendation from an installer. I haven't gotten zapped yet - although it may happen in the future.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @coliver
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                @coliver said:

                @dafyre said:

                @coliver said:

                @art_of_shred said:

                @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

                I have a 208v appliance (screw auger) that is ground over the neutral line. I did a ton of research when setting it up and apparently it is pretty common.

                Hopefully not getting zapped by it, lol.

                Nah, I tied it into the house ground independently of the neutral bar. On a recommendation from an installer. I haven't gotten zapped yet - although it may happen in the future.

                Nah... You done it right tying it to the house ground. You have to try to get yourself shocked that way, lol.

                Just don't ground it to the kitchen sink, lol.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @dafyre
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                  @dafyre This is what I like about ML. Not only can I get advice on IT, I can get advice on home maintenance and electricity. 🙂

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                    dafyre @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    @dafyre This is what I like about ML. Not only can I get advice on IT, I can get advice on home maintenance and electricity. 🙂

                    I"m not an electrician... I have a (very?) basic understanding of electronics, lol.. Following my advice may have the following side effects: Nausea, upset stomach, loss of feeling in hands, loss of feeling in arms, loss of feeling in feet, empty bank account, sudden muscle spasms, electric shock, cardiac arrest and even death.

                    In the event you experience such side effects it is too late to call your doctor... Sorry.

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                    • art_of_shredA
                      art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      @art_of_shred said:

                      @dafyre Was that a 3-prong 220 plug? Trying to understand why the ground would be live.

                      I have a 208v appliance (screw auger) that is ground over the neutral line. I did a ton of research when setting it up and apparently it is pretty common.

                      Yes, neutral and ground do go to the same place, anyway. The difference is at what point they get there. Your typical "ground" that you're used to is to protect you in the event that a live wire on the device accidentally makes contact with something on it that you could touch. If it's grounded better than you are, you don't get zapped. The neutral line is there to create a sink for electron flow for the actual power. Lots of 220 appliances used to use those 3-prong plugs, which is L1, L2, N/G. Most modern setups have 4 prongs: L1, L2, N, G. All neutral lines go to ground in the end. If you're getting zapped, the shell of the appliance is becoming live and is itself not properly grounded, or maybe the shared N/G is being tied to the chassis. When you touch something well-grounded, while touching something with its chassis grounded to a shared N/G, you become well grounded... and get zapped.

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                      • NicN
                        Nic
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                        Remember to test wires with the back of your hand, so the electricity doesn't make you clamp down and keep you getting shocked 🙂

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned @Nic
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                          @Nic said:

                          Remember to test wires with the back of your hand, so the electricity doesn't make you clamp down and keep you getting shocked 🙂

                          Your ears work just as well for that... just sayin'

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