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    what are the best practices to do before virtualizing a physical DC ?

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    windows server 2008 r2 p2v virtualization active directory best practices
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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      For what platform?

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        For what platform?

        Ah I didn't read the article. Is raw on hyper-v different from raw on KVM or xen?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Same idea, bypassing the encapsulation of the file system to write directly to a block device not provided by the HV.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            Same idea, bypassing the encapsulation of the file system to write directly to a block device not provided by the HV.

            Ok. So is LVM use a bad idea then?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I would not use it, we used to do that a decade ago when we had to do extreme tuning because the technology was very nascent. Today, only in extreme cases would I be willing to consider that.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates
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                Which formats do you recommend?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Generaly qcow2 for KVM.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    There are only two reasons to P2V a DC.

                    1. You have another workload on the box like file shares or something.
                    2. See 1.

                    Even if you have no more licensing, spin up a new VM running Server 2008 R2, activate with your existing key, join it to the domain and then promote it to be a DC. Take the FSMO roles and then demote the old one and remove it.

                    i think i have that reason to P2V my DC, because this physical server actually play 3 roles :

                    • Domain conroller
                    • File Server
                    • SQL Server

                    so i think i have a reason to P2V it ??

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                      IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      Even if you have no more licensing, spin up a new VM running Server 2008 R2, activate with your existing key.

                      do you mean i have to retrieve my current physical key and use the same key in my new VM (because windows server 2008 R2 entreprise edition include 1 Physical and 2 VM) ??

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                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Things like don't let it be imaged are just general data base rules that apply to any database. AD uses a database, so database rules apply.

                        do you mean that all server that has DB on it, it is not recommended to P2V it ??
                        i'm confused, because almost all server has DB like DC and SQL, oracle ......

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          There are only two reasons to P2V a DC.

                          1. You have another workload on the box like file shares or something.
                          2. See 1.

                          Even if you have no more licensing, spin up a new VM running Server 2008 R2, activate with your existing key, join it to the domain and then promote it to be a DC. Take the FSMO roles and then demote the old one and remove it.

                          i think i have that reason to P2V my DC, because this physical server actually play 3 roles :

                          • Domain conroller
                          • File Server
                          • SQL Server

                          so i think i have a reason to P2V it ??

                          Even so, If you can, you should create a new VM, don't P2V unless you have no other options. You're still running Windows Server 2008, If you have the 2012 R2 licenses for that server, you should definitely convert.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i think i have that reason to P2V my DC, because this physical server actually play 3 roles :

                            • Domain conroller
                            • File Server
                            • SQL Server

                            so i think i have a reason to P2V it ??

                            You have have to P2V. And both DCs and SQL Server should not be P2V'd. File servers can be easily moved otherwise.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Things like don't let it be imaged are just general data base rules that apply to any database. AD uses a database, so database rules apply.

                              do you mean that all server that has DB on it, it is not recommended to P2V it ??
                              i'm confused, because almost all server has DB like DC and SQL, oracle ......

                              Correct. Databases should not be P2V'd unless you can shut the databases down during the move.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                How goes your project?

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