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    • J
      Jason Banned
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Looking for online backup solutions that support both file level restores and system (bare metal) restores. I haven't found one yet. We need this for a temporary solution.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        What do you mean by online?

        Online only? Or a local backup that replicates online that you can access if the local backups are not available?

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          JaredBusch @Jason
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          @Jason said:

          Looking for online backup solutions that support both file level restores and system (bare metal) restores. I haven't found one yet. We need this for a temporary solution.

          There used to be a company called 3X that had a hardware device that did this with an agent installed locally. They died after virtualization fully broke mainstream. I have a couple of their boxes and used them to back up clients (for a fee).

          Today, I would use Veeam Endpoint Backup to a local target and then have something ship that local backup offsite. If the data amount is small enough, CrashPlan Pro works well for this.

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            Jason Banned @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said:

            What do you mean by online?

            Online only? Or a local backup that replicates online that you can access if the local backups are not available?

            Online Only. This is an emergency solution for a colo we cannot get to right now and have other issues with at the moment.

            There's about 60 or 70 VM's there but we can get away with just dealing with 6 or so of them at the moment.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch

              I spoke to CrashPlan at a recent tech event. I told them they need some sort of BMR process in addition to their awesome file level backup. The guy said he had no knowledge of that coming in the future.

              CrashPlanPro (now called CrashPlan Business) has a major flaw in their offering in that they don't offer a restore-to-door service.

              Actually, their tech support says they do, but I think they are wrong.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Jason
                last edited by

                @Jason said:

                @BRRABill said:

                What do you mean by online?

                Online only? Or a local backup that replicates online that you can access if the local backups are not available?

                Online Only. This is an emergency solution for a colo we cannot get to right now and have other issues with at the moment.

                There's about 60 or 70 VM's there but we can get away with just dealing with 6 or so of them at the moment.

                What Hypervisor? Would WAN based replication be an option?

                Really no matter what you try here with online only, you are going to have a massive initial seed time.

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                  JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said:

                  @JaredBusch

                  I spoke to CrashPlan at a recent tech event. I told them they need some sort of BMR process in addition to their awesome file level backup. The guy said he had no knowledge of that coming in the future.

                  CrashPlanPro (now called CrashPlan Business) has a major flaw in their offering in that they don't offer a restore-to-door service.

                  Actually, their tech support says they do, but I think they are wrong.

                  CrashPlan has always listed the option to pay for a drive to be delivered. Never looked into it though.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    CrashPlan has always listed the option to pay for a drive to be delivered. Never looked into it though.

                    Used to be just for the Home service, though.

                    And they recently raised their price. It's pricey now.

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                      Jason Banned @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      Really no matter what you try here with online only, you are going to have a massive initial seed time.

                      Not a major issue. We can set QoS. Colo has 100mpbs symmetrical WAN.

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                        Jason Banned @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @Jason said:

                        @BRRABill said:

                        What do you mean by online?

                        Online only? Or a local backup that replicates online that you can access if the local backups are not available?

                        Online Only. This is an emergency solution for a colo we cannot get to right now and have other issues with at the moment.

                        There's about 60 or 70 VM's there but we can get away with just dealing with 6 or so of them at the moment.

                        What Hypervisor? Would WAN based replication be an option?

                        Vmware ESXi. Not sure what version off the top of my head. might be 5.5 update 3 on both the vcenter and esxi hosts.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          CrashPlan has always listed the option to pay for a drive to be delivered. Never looked into it though.

                          Used to be just for the Home service, though.

                          And they recently raised their price. It's pricey now.

                          Price looks the same to me.
                          https://i.imgur.com/IXPQIyp.jpg

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch

                            Sorry...

                            I meant the restore-to-door service. I think it used to be sub $200. Now it costs $299.99.

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                              JaredBusch @Jason
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                              @Jason said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @BRRABill said:

                              What do you mean by online?

                              Online only? Or a local backup that replicates online that you can access if the local backups are not available?

                              Online Only. This is an emergency solution for a colo we cannot get to right now and have other issues with at the moment.

                              There's about 60 or 70 VM's there but we can get away with just dealing with 6 or so of them at the moment.

                              What Hypervisor? Would WAN based replication be an option?

                              Vmware ESXi. Not sure what version off the top of my head. might be 5.5 update 3 on both the vcenter and esxi hosts.

                              Well if you can spin up ESXi someplace else you could run a Veeam trial package and use that to replicate. Not sure how long the trial for Veeam and trial for the other ESXi host last to get all the features. But that would be one way.

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                                Jason Banned
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                                Looks like we will us Carbonite.. However these servers aren't well maintained (they came from a buy out of another company) and the install isn't going well. I've got 1TB just on one SQL server to backup though.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I've got a friend at Carbonite!

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    I've got a friend at Carbonite!

                                    Shocking. 😆

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                                    • NicN
                                      Nic
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                                      Backblaze has a business offering, and former SpiceLord Aaron McCormack works there as a sysadmin.

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