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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      but a normal PC cannot be powered 24/24 hour, and this server had only 2 HD, (RAID 1 mirroring)

      It can't? why not? I never turn my computer off unless it has a problem.

      oh, your server only had 2 drives, in RAID 1. Then assuming your RAID didn't do anything funny, you should be able to plug one of them into the motherboard and boot from it. Thought Windows still probably won't boot correctly because of a driver issue, but you could get lucky.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        ok Dear Scott thank you very much
        my question is : can i connect the motherboard with a single HD and boot from it without using the RAID Card ??

        Of course. A server is just a PC like any other. PCs booting from RAID is the same as booting from a disk. It's all the same to the mobo.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          but a normal PC cannot be powered 24/24 hour, and this server had only 2 HD, (RAID 1 mirroring)

          I don't understand any of this statement. Why not and what's wrong with the mirroring?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            but a normal PC cannot be powered 24/24 hour, and this server had only 2 HD, (RAID 1 mirroring)

            It can't? why not? I never turn my computer off unless it has a problem.

            oh, your server only had 2 drives, in RAID 1. Then assuming your RAID didn't do anything funny, you should be able to plug one of them into the motherboard and boot from it. Thought Windows still probably won't boot correctly because of a driver issue, but you could get lucky.

            He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

              I've been able to boot to one member of a RAID1 array.

              It was on an Intel RAID card in a desktop, though. Not a PERC controller.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

                I've been able to boot to one member of a RAID1 array.

                It was on an Intel RAID card in a desktop, though. Not a PERC controller.

                That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

                  How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

                    How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

                    FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

                      How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

                      FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

                      So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

                        Correct, it is FakeRAID. The card exists for no purpose but to trick you into paying for nothing. It's literally just really bad software RAID. Better to use the OS' software RAID which is faster, more reliable and more flexible and isn't sold to you on a con.

                        Intel is famous for this and a leading reason why I would never be caught dead buying Intel servers or storage - they treat their customers like enemies actively scamming them.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Intel is far from the only FakeRAID vendor, nearly every motherboard maker offers consumer FakeRAID. Intel is just the most aggressive with actually making fake cards and trying to sell into the business market.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            You have a writeup on this?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              You have a writeup on this?

                              Already linked it.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                You have a writeup on this?

                                Already linked it.

                                Hidden-ish.

                                It was like a puzzle finding it. Fun, thanks! LOL.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

                                    Why would that make it better? Just because it can do "as much" doesn't make it better. It has caveats, but what upsides?

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok thank you guys, i will turn my server into a normal PC, but this PC will be powerful

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                                      so there is a difference btw normal PC and a server turned into PC

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        Not really any difference.

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                                        • H
                                          hubtechagain
                                          last edited by

                                          meh, this is my laptop
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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            loooooooooooooool
                                            what is the diffirence btw Xeon and i7 ??

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