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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      So I am recommending the Synology 214 to my friend/client.

      What would you recommend for backups of this? Buy a second and mirror it?

      I know some of you use this, so what do you do?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @BRRABill said:

        1. Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.

        No. That's pretty worthless in a small, non-technical environment. How and where would they use this encryption that it would be both useful and protect anything? What do you want to encrypt against?

        If it is doable, why WOULDN'T you want encryption?

        Say it is a a legal office, accounting office, doctor, whatever. There's a good chance there is data on there you wouldn't want accessed if it got stolen.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          So I am recommending the Synology 214 to my friend/client.

          What would you recommend for backups of this? Buy a second and mirror it?

          I know some of you use this, so what do you do?

          There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

            Storage. I convinced them to stop saving to their desktops, and buy the Synology and store everything to that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said:

              If it is doable, why WOULDN'T you want encryption?

              How could it be DOABLE, though?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                How could it be DOABLE, though?

                The device supports it?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by DustinB3403

                  So if it's storage, you don't want to backup to another unit sitting right next to it.

                  Offsite is likely the best option. Maybe a few external drives that get rotated weekly?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

                    Storage. I convinced them to stop saving to their desktops, and buy the Synology and store everything to that.

                    Okay, then mirroring is not ideal. You want an actual backup. Something that grabs the share and backs it up or runs as an app and does backups is best.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      So if it's storage, you don't want to backup to another unit sitting right next to it.

                      Offsite is likely the best option. Maybe a few external drives that get rotated weekly?

                      At least not ONLY to a device sitting right next to it. That plus something else is fine.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                        That's what I was thinking of.

                        They also support cloud backup of the device.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          How could it be DOABLE, though?

                          The device supports it?

                          Everything "supports" it but no one uses it because it's not useful. Picture the scenario....

                          If the NAS itself is encrypted, how will people access it? Will they need to log into the NAS every time it reboots and unencrypt everything before they use it? What doctor or law office could handle that task?

                          The problem with encryption is that it is so immensely impractical to use that it is useless. Generally speaking.

                          How do you make it so that they have to unencrypt things while still making it encrypt enough to protect against something real?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said:

                            I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                            Mirroring is replication, not backup. A deletion or corruption gets copied.

                            It is only a backup if it is decoupled.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @BRRABill said:

                              I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                              Mirroring is replication, not backup. A deletion or corruption gets copied.

                              It is only a backup if it is decoupled.

                              The device also does versioning.

                              I see what you mean though, that if the whole thing was corrupted, it would be an issue.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                                Mirroring is replication, not backup. A deletion or corruption gets copied.

                                It is only a backup if it is decoupled.

                                The device also does versioning.

                                I see what you mean though, that if the whole thing was corrupted, it would be an issue.

                                If you have something like RSnapshots as a backup process, that would be fine. but just mirroring isn't useful.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  If the NAS itself is encrypted, how will people access it? Will they need to log into the NAS every time it reboots and unencrypt everything before they use it? What doctor or law office could handle that task?

                                  Key on removable USB drive?

                                  Places like doctor offices need the data at rest to be encrypted. How could you NOT do something?

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    If you have something like RSnapshots as a backup process, that would be fine. but just mirroring isn't useful.

                                    That's what I am looking to find out. I know a few people here are using this box and OS so hopefully they will chime in.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      Key on removable USB drive?

                                      So.... not encrypted for all intents and purposes? How would this not be the same as taping the password to the front? In fact it would be worse, a thief wouldn't even figure out that it was encrypted.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        Places like doctor offices need the data at rest to be encrypted. How could you NOT do something?

                                        No they don't. Not legally and not practically. There is no reason to be encrypting that data. And there is no reasonable means of doing it until they are large enough to have full time IT staff handling all of this stuff. No doctor's office is doing this unless they are completely hosted or have full time IT and even then... basically none do it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          If you have something like RSnapshots as a backup process, that would be fine. but just mirroring isn't useful.

                                          That's what I am looking to find out. I know a few people here are using this box and OS so hopefully they will chime in.

                                          The majority use it as a backup target.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Taking a backup of a NAS is pretty easy if it is not large. You can just make a tarball and copy it off with a simple script.

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