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    • J
      Jason Banned
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      I thought we weren't going to be bashing/tearing apart Spiceworks questions on here anymore? It seems unprofessional and undermines the community.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen @Jason
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        @Jason This is a discussion about his question not bashing SW.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Jason
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          @Jason said:

          I thought we weren't going to be bashing/tearing apart Spiceworks questions on here anymore? It seems unprofessional and undermines the community.

          Yeah I haven't said "Hey Guys look here, this GUY!!"

          It's a question of why / how can a business ask others to tell them what they should offer and the frequency to which I've seen these topics.

          I would also bring this same question up to any question posted here that matches the same formatting.

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            Jason Banned @Minion Queen
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            @Minion-Queen said:

            @Jason This is a discussion about his question not bashing SW.

            No but it seems to bash the OP on the SW thread. it;s like having a hidden topic about the OPs topic.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              I met this guy at the one Spicecorp event I was able to attend. He seemed eager to learn and was asking everyone a ton of questions, most of them good ones.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Jason
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                @Jason said:

                @Minion-Queen said:

                @Jason This is a discussion about his question not bashing SW.

                No but it seems to bash the OP on the SW thread. it;s like having a hidden topic about the OPs topic.

                The discussion being held here, is in no way hidden. It's simply a separate topic, about the OP's topic, that doesn't detract from his own topic.

                (Wow say that 5 times fast)

                There is no bashing, this is a conversation about "how can a business, expect to ask other businesses for the keys to expanding and success"

                Scott is already providing the OP some valuable information.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                  @Jason said:

                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  @Jason This is a discussion about his question not bashing SW.

                  No but it seems to bash the OP on the SW thread. it;s like having a hidden topic about the OPs topic.

                  That's true to a point, except Dustin is likely to invite him over here shortly, so it is a little different in that he could theoretically be seeing it right now and almost certainly will see it today.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
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                    I can honestly say that before getting into the MSP space, I didn't really understand what the space was.

                    Our initial thoughts were ... hey we know IT, we'll just consult and help people, not realizing what is out there. Mainly just from never having seen it before. Now that I've been in it for a while, it makes complete sense, and I couldn't imagine it any other way.

                    But I can certainly understand not understanding the space, and not knowing exactly what to offer.

                    Or, even more so to my own example, going in thinking of offering A, but then talking to others in the space and realizing, hey I really need to offer B.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I've been talking to him and made sure that he is aware of the thread.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill But at some point, you and the business you worked for said. "Hey we need to offer more or different products, we need to differentiate our business.

                        To provide more than an single stream of income, and had some kind of a plan.

                        Sure the plan changed, but in the OP, the topic is specifically asking "What should we do to differentiate". There is no answer that will fit perfectly.

                        No one can say "Hey we're doing this, if you can do this we'd all win" It's not a crystal ball.

                        Only from the OP's own conversation with their clients and seeing what they "need" even if they don't know it could the OP (and business) determine a new product line to offer/support.

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                        • adamevans4A
                          adamevans4
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                          Sorry, I am late to the party. lol I appreciate everyone's advice. There is a lot of good information here that gives me some ideas of where to go next. I'll catch up on the thread after my meeting this morning. Thank you again for your time and help!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @adamevans4
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                            @adamevans4 said:

                            Sorry, I am late to the party. lol I appreciate everyone's advice. There is a lot of good information here that gives me some ideas of where to go next. I'll catch up on the thread after my meeting this morning. Thank you again for your time and help!

                            I literally just opened the "user" tab to see if you had come over to join us yet 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              Sure the plan changed, but in the OP, the topic is specifically asking "What should we do to differentiate". There is no answer that will fit perfectly.

                              No one can say "Hey we're doing this, if you can do this we'd all win" It's not a crystal ball.

                              That is a good way to look at it.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by DustinB3403

                                Doesn't it only make sense, that as a business you need to evaluate what you're currently offering / doing and design a plan on what you want to do.

                                Once you know what you want to do (or who to service) that you design a plan, become an expert on your design services. Once you have that then you can say "how can we improve this".

                                Rather than "Hey what should we do to expand?" Because I'll openly ask it here.

                                What should I do to earn $600 Million in the next 5 years?

                                Granted the question is extreme, but effectually the same thing.

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                                • adamevans4A
                                  adamevans4
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                                  So we were traditionally a document center but have since started providing computer repair services. Now we are providing support to small businesses in the area. I were many hats in this organization and working hard to grow the business. I guess knowing the right questions will make finding answers easier. So from my initial topic I have received some great feedback and I value everyone's time. Going forward I will start paying closer attention to the needs of my customers and look to expand our services from there.

                                  I guess a better question would have been "what services are you offering your customers now to help them improve their IT and help them do business better or more efficiently?"

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @adamevans4
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                                    @adamevans4 asking for the keys to the castle aren't we....

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      If you're looking to get the business to an MSP type of business rather than a Fix-It business, you need to develop a level of expertise on many subjects.

                                      Virtualization is a great topic to dive into and learn. VDI is a subcategory of Virtualization and is also great to understand, know how to implement etc.

                                      There is literally everything IT you could learn to expand the business, but it's dependent on what you're actually trying to get the business too.

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                                      • adamevans4A
                                        adamevans4 @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by adamevans4

                                        @DustinB3403 Okay, maybe you can direct me to more appropriate resource that would help me? 🙂 I am certainly not trying to step on anyone's toes here. I am just looking to learn more and grow our business...

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          I'm just playing devils advocate, don't take it personal.

                                          Here, SW are good places to find sources of "enlightenment" (for lack of a better word).

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            In your business, are the systems currently virtualized? Do you have a robust phone system? Are you using VoIP? I bet that in your own organization there are many items that can be greatly improved, and as you improve those, you can say "Hey we can do this and that and offer this."

                                            All because of the experience from doing it. Certainly you'd want to become an expert on the subject matter, but that comes from working with a product.

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