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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @coliver said:

      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Intel and IBM tests in similar weather conditions (New Mexico instead of Qatar) years ago put optimum efficiency of the datacenter closer to 30-32.

      Wow, that's 86-90F. That seems very warm!

      We studied that project in grad school. It was pretty cool how they set it up. As long as humidity didn't get too high you could have ambient temperatures of ~100F before things started to fail.

      I guess that makes sense. I mean, as a mostly-human being, Syracuse during the summer is often infinitely harder to handle than Dallas ever was due to how humidity affects perception of temperature. I guess it wouldn't be THAT different to electronics.

      Although it is opposite, for electronics which are air cooled, high humidity increases cooling potential. For humans which are evaporation cooled, humidity decreases cooling potential.

      Fair enough...still, water on a board due to condensation is a risk.

      Oh yes, you can't let there be water, ever.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
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        i go to the server room to raise the tempreture, i realize that the remote controller is missing 😲

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          i go to the server room to raise the tempreture, i realize that the remote controller is missing 😲

          Look in the couch. It is always in the couch.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            You know it is an enterprise HVAC system when you have a remote 🙂

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              IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i go to the server room to raise the tempreture, i realize that the remote controller is missing 😲

              Look in the couch. It is always in the couch.

              lol, it is not the TV remote controller, i'm talking about the AC

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                i go to the server room to raise the tempreture, i realize that the remote controller is missing 😲

                Look in the couch. It is always in the couch.

                lol, it is not the TV remote controller, i'm talking about the AC

                He is well aware.

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                  IT-ADMIN @thanksajdotcom
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                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  i go to the server room to raise the tempreture, i realize that the remote controller is missing 😲

                  Look in the couch. It is always in the couch.

                  lol, it is not the TV remote controller, i'm talking about the AC

                  He is well aware.

                  i know, and he know that i was joking 😉

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

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                      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                      hahahahahahaha, i was joking

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                        hahahahahahaha, i was joking

                        You're dealing with two Aspies...we tend to take stuff literally...

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                          IT-ADMIN @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                          hahahahahahaha, i was joking

                          You're dealing with two Aspies...we tend to take stuff literally...

                          ooooh sorry, i thought you were joking 😉

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                            Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                            Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

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                              Jason Banned
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                              You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

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                                scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                @Jason said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                                Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

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                                Yup. It actually works amazingly well down here where the heat never stops.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                  @Jason said:

                                  You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

                                  0_1447257381137_cassette.jpg

                                  It's definitely seen those too, but you are right, it is rare.

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                                    coliver @Jason
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                                    @Jason said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                                    Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

                                    0_1447257285201_LM360HE_M.JPG

                                    We had two of those at a previous job. They worked amazingly well on warm-hot days... didn't work at all during the winter, never figured out why.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      We have a mini split in our on-site DC. It has gone out 4 times in 8 years and been replaced fully once.

                                      At this point in time I have a hard time trusting them.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

                                        0_1447257381137_cassette.jpg

                                        It's definitely seen those too, but you are right, it is rare.

                                        This looks more like an RV style AC vent than a commercial install.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          We have a mini split in our on-site DC. It has gone out 4 times in 8 years and been replaced fully once.

                                          At this point in time I have a hard time trusting them.

                                          That's like saying your server died so you don't trust servers. Don't mix one model or vendor being unreliable, and especially not one specific unit and probably an individual installer, with a category of things. If you look at a Pinto, cars seem unreliable. If you look at a BMW 750i, they seem to never break. It's not that they are "cars" that defines their reliability but the maker, model, instance and maintenance on them.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            yeah yeah I know... I'm on my second one... and second vendor (Carrier this time) and similar issues.

                                            I know this doesn't mean the whole idea is bad... I'm simply frustrated by these that I've personally had experience with.

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