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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said:

        I don't consider 17C cold.

        Nor do I. More "not hot."

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said:

          I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain that whatever caused that PC to fail was nothing to do with the environment it was located in.

          I imagine computer manufacturers store new computers in warehouses that are colder than 17C for months on end, without worrying about damaging them.

          There would be extreme conditions that could lead to damage, but mostly only from super cold leading to condensation. Or temps above say 60C.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
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            @coliver said:

            Do you have servers in your server room? If they aren't breaking due to the cold your desktops are also most likely not affected... This just sounds like regular hardware failure. Have you looked up the model to see if it has a blink code?

            Those would be warm at normal operating temps is why he is concerned.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

              So here is what you need to know...

              • Storing computers at any reasonable temp from really cold to 60C+ is absolutely fine while they are off. The only thing to be concerned about is rapid temp changes or condensation. Keep them dry, but not so dry that you get static shocks. Temp really does not matter while idle.
              • What kills computers in regards to temps is either overheating while running (CPU melts) or temperate changes cause hard drives to warp. As long as the temp is not changing, you are fine.
              • The time you are at risk is only if you have Winchester drives and you power on a cold machine and the drives have to heat up.
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              • coliverC
                coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

                That shouldn't be an issue... that is roughly normal room temperature in most of upstate NY.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                  @coliver said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

                  That shouldn't be an issue... that is roughly normal room temperature in most of upstate NY.

                  Yeah! That's totally room temps for half of the year. In the UK too. I've gone into hotels and had the rooms be below 17.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
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                    so this issue has nothing to do with their previous location, but how we can explain that this computer was fine before taking it to the server room ??

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      so this issue has nothing to do with their previous location, but how we can explain that this computer was fine before taking it to the server room ??

                      The times when servers are most like to die are not related to how they are stored but include:

                      • When they are moved.
                      • When they are powered on.
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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

                          lol, it is just a weird coincidence 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

                            lol, it is just a weird coincidence 🙂

                            Not a coincidence at all. You powered on a machine that had been off... that's the time you expect things to fail. Nothing odd in any way.

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
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                              ok, i think the motherboard get damaged, i will take the data of the HD

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                ok, i think the motherboard get damaged, i will take the data of the HD

                                What is going on with the machine? Are their failure indicator lights?

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN
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                                  i checked on DELL website, this is what i find
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                                  i have the first symptom, it mean i have a motherboard issue

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Ah, okay. Can you get a replacement there?

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      unfortunately no, there is no warranty, i have to buy a new desktop 😞

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom
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                                        17C is about 62-63F [(if my math is right) I checked Google...it is], which is getting near the top-end range of my ideal temperature. 45-65F is ideal for me, so no, that's not cold at all. Most computers in Upstate NY deal with months of 6-8+ hour stretches of temperatures much colder than that with no issues.

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                                            Jason Banned @thanksajdotcom
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                                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                                            17C is about 62-63F [(if my math is right) I checked Google...it is], which is getting near the top-end range of my ideal temperature. 45-65F is ideal for me, so no, that's not cold at all.

                                            Ideal data center temperatures have actually been moved up to 68-78F range in recent years.

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