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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @Joy
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      @Joyfano said:

      @ajstringham I wish I do this before hahahaha I never know Linux before. I just heard but never had a chance to work it

      As I said. I had greatness thrust upon me...in a sense. 😉 😛

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Joy
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        @Joyfano said:

        @Dashrender really? I heard that you can create a firewall using Linux
        SAM suggest to create a wiki using Linux

        You can make pretty much anything. Linux is a general purpose operating system. So all of the things that you would do with any OS plus some that are not very practical for things like Windows to handle.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Doing a project, like making a wiki, is a great way to learn because you have a goal and something to actually strive towards. Otherwise you install Linux, look at it and.... what else?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            There are tons of ways that you can use Linux at home for projects to learn different ways to use it. Some ideas:

            • Web server (host pmWiki and static websites)
            • Database server (like MySQL / MariaDB)
            • Application server (MediaWiki and WordPress)
            • PBX
            • Firewall
            • Storage Server (Samba for Windows, NFS for other Linux)
            • Domain controller (via Samba again)
            • Email Server (like Zimbra)
            • Media Server (DLNA for actual home use)
            • Monitoring (Zabbix, Nagios, etc.)
            • Logging (Splunk, Logstash, etc.)

            Lots of ideas. There are SO many things to do on Linux that are practical.

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            • JoyJ
              Joy @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller yes exactly I have a goal for learning Linux.

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              • JoyJ
                Joy @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I am thinking to install Centos into my laptop so that I can use it daily 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  On your laptop use Fedora 20 or the latest OpenSuse, not CentOS. CentOS is a server distro, not good for desktop use.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Even the latest Mint would be okay on a laptop.

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                    • JoyJ
                      Joy @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller ahh I see. so I will do it tonight 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        I would say to get Linux Mint and choose the Cinnamon option. That will be best for getting started.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Be aware that using Linux as a desktop will do very little to teach you about running a Linux server. But it sure won't hurt.

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @Joy
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                            @Joyfano Mint is great. Ubuntu is still nice if you rip Unity out and put GNOME back on where it belongs!

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                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Doing a project, like making a wiki, is a great way to learn because you have a goal and something to actually strive towards. Otherwise you install Linux, look at it and.... what else?

                              this had always been my problem, I've installed them before and just sat. There staring at it.

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                              • JoyJ
                                Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Its ok. it will teach me how to use. At least I will have an idea how to work with Linux server.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @ajstringham said:

                                  @Joyfano Mint is great. Ubuntu is still nice if you rip Unity out and put GNOME back on where it belongs!

                                  I would not do this, ever. All the badness of Ubuntu for no reason, plus all the issues of being new to the OS and having to "rip out" the intended interface and then, when you are done, having Gnome 3 which is still hard to use and will turn someone off from trying to learn Linux. All bad. I only think Mint is acceptable because Cinnamon is native, works out of the box and you never need to deal with changing things around. It's the only condition that I'd ever recommend a Debian based system for someone new to Linux and only if I thought that they were really focused on using it as a desktop. Ubuntu is a general no-no for new users because it is unnecessarily confusing and will make Linux seem much less friendly and useful than it is.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                    @Joyfano said:

                                    @scottalanmiller Its ok. it will teach me how to use. At least I will have an idea how to work with Linux server.

                                    It's just like Windows - you just need a "reason" before you do it or there is nothing to do. If you install a Windows Server at home and have no goals with it, it will do nothing too.

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                                    • JoyJ
                                      Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller I see. So I have a goal for this. That's why I need to learn from very basic.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                        @Joyfano said:

                                        @scottalanmiller I see. So I have a goal for this. That's why I need to learn from very basic.

                                        Just be aware that using it as a desktop can make that harder because you get caught up playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux.

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller " playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux."
                                          what do you mean? my brain is not working...

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                            @Joyfano said:

                                            @scottalanmiller " playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux."
                                            what do you mean? my brain is not working...

                                            Meaning people who use Linux as a desktop tend to spend their time finding cool applications to install, changing the wall paper, worrying about where the buttons are, etc. The same things that normal people using Windows do. But those "normal" things don't really teach you anything about Linux - not using Linux as a server. On a server you are really doing completely different tasks and when people say "learn Linux" it is the server tasks that they mean. Using it as a desktop encourages you to use it as a "end user" rather than as a "systems administrator." Nothing wrong with having a Linux desktop and it makes working with servers even easier (wait till you see how sweet the terminal integration is.)

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