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    Dell PowerEdge C2100 with 24 Drive bays

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      The 5841 GB is "used" space.

      Space that's on the each drive regardless if it's 100% used. (none are) But just trying to do the math on this.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        Just calculating what I might need to put something in a colo if the conversation comes up.

        Exactly where "throw away" servers are a horrible fit. You don't want equipment designed to be replaced, rather than replaired, in a colo where the cost to get gear in and out is high.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          You already know that the 2 TB drives are going to cost you $400 ea at that size. Sure this is the way you want to go?

          If you move to 3.5" drives you can move up to 6 TB drives. Assuming you can do consumer drives, you're looking at approx $200 a drive for 3 times the storage.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            Backup storage for the virtualization project you're aware of.

            Why use a "disposable" server with high cost enterprise drives instead of an enterprise server with consumer SATA drives? LFF SATA is so much cheaper per GB, perfect for backup systems.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

              Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                This would only be for off-host backup, but written to weekly if my plan is decided on.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Not including the incrementals which are written ever hour, stored for 72 hours and then dumped.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

                    Depends on the RAID level that you decide to use.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

                        But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

                          Then no, UREs are not a factor.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

                            But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

                            What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

                              Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

                                  As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                      Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                        Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                                        Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          It's a matter of reliability.

                                          Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                            Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                                            Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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