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    • NaraN
      Nara
      last edited by Nara

      If you're a VP or C-Level, the line where you end and where the company begins really blurs. You become an extension of the company in a way. Sure, the pay's pretty sweet, but it comes with high non-monetary costs, like not having much of a life completely free from work.

      Edited for spelling

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle
        last edited by Bill Kindle

        If it were Mozilla's money (stockholders money) being given to an organization such as the one he donated to then I could understand. However, what someone does in their personal life should not ruin them on the corporate side of things If they keep work / life separated. It just seems a little hypocritical to me that you can have someone get fired and shamed for opposing something but as long as you are supporting the 'right' side you are viewed as a righteous champion of a cause.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Nara
          last edited by

          @Nara said:

          If you're a VP or C-Level, the line where you end and where the company beings really blurs. You become an extension of the company in a way. Sure, the pay's pretty sweet, but it comes with high non-monetary costs, like not having much of a life completely free from work.

          Exactly. There are tons of jobs where you can have your own opinions and they are just yours. Being famous or in the public eye or the representative for someone else you give up that freedom, at least to some degree.

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          • C
            Carnival Boy @Bill Kindle
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            @Bill-Kindle said:

            It just seems a little hypocritical to me that you can have someone get fired and shamed for opposing something but as long as you are supporting the 'right' side you are viewed as a righteous champion of a cause.

            I don't think it's a case of right or wrong. It's just a controversial cause. And when it's controversial you will get boycotts. And boycotts are bad for business, hence he goes. If Kim Jong-un created a really cool browser, I'd have a hard time using it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
              last edited by

              @Carnival-Boy said:

              @Bill-Kindle said:

              It just seems a little hypocritical to me that you can have someone get fired and shamed for opposing something but as long as you are supporting the 'right' side you are viewed as a righteous champion of a cause.

              I don't think it's a case of right or wrong. It's just a controversial cause. And when it's controversial you will get boycotts. And boycotts are bad for business, hence he goes. If Kim Jong-un created a really cool browser, I'd have a hard time using it.

              I think if any temperamental five year old made a browser it would be hard to use.

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              • C
                Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                I think if any temperamental five year old made a browser it would be hard to use.

                I'll get my daughter to make one this weekend, and report back.

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                • NicN
                  Nic
                  last edited by

                  Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

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                  • Bill KindleB
                    Bill Kindle @Nic
                    last edited by

                    @Nic said:

                    Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

                    Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
                      last edited by

                      @Bill-Kindle said:

                      @Nic said:

                      Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

                      Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

                      What outrage isn't selective?

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                      • NicN
                        Nic @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Bill-Kindle said:

                        @Nic said:

                        Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

                        Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

                        What outrage isn't selective?

                        I'm outraged at everything!

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                        • Seth CooperS
                          Seth Cooper
                          last edited by

                          Fury is best served unbridled.

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                          • Chad K.C
                            Chad K. @Bill Kindle
                            last edited by

                            @Bill-Kindle
                            No it does not make them Mozillas. Mozilla is a business, it does not have any religion. No matter what.

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                            • Chad K.C
                              Chad K. @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller
                              He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Chad K.
                                last edited by

                                @Chad-K. said:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Seth Cooper
                                  last edited by

                                  @Seth-Cooper said:

                                  Fury is best served unbridled.

                                  True. Rage like a wild stallion.

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                                  • Chad K.C
                                    Chad K. @Bill Kindle
                                    last edited by

                                    @Bill-Kindle
                                    It's hypocritical to be against equality personally and work for an organization that promotes it. People will look at the situation and say "How long until he changes the organization in a way that pulls it away from where it is and toward those views that are in opposition to the companies history and stated ambitions". This isn't good for business.

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                                    • PSX_DefectorP
                                      PSX_Defector @Nic
                                      last edited by

                                      @Nic said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Bill-Kindle said:

                                      @Nic said:

                                      Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

                                      Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

                                      What outrage isn't selective?

                                      I'm outraged at everything!

                                      outrage.jpg

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                                      • Chad K.C
                                        Chad K. @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Chad-K. said:

                                        @scottalanmiller
                                        He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                        Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                        Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.
                                        Only in that he didn't do it as CEO

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                                        • Bill KindleB
                                          Bill Kindle @Chad K.
                                          last edited by

                                          @Chad-K. said:

                                          @Bill-Kindle
                                          It's hypocritical to be against equality personally and work for an organization that promotes it. People will look at the situation and say "How long until he changes the organization in a way that pulls it away from where it is and toward those views that are in opposition to the companies history and stated ambitions". This isn't good for business.

                                          But at the same time doesn't it alienate the same people who may hold different beliefs? Isn't that the same thing? like role reversal?

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                                          • Bill KindleB
                                            Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Chad-K. said:

                                            @scottalanmiller
                                            He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                            Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                            Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

                                            So he does something long before he was a CEO. I've made some bad decisions life (who hasn't?) but does that make me an eternal idiot and unqualified to run a company?

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