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    • coliverC
      coliver @hobbit666
      last edited by coliver

      @hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

      Confused about xen-orchestra and backups.
      I installed via Scotts script on a clean Ubuntu and that seemed to allow backups (all of them) but some failed. Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).

      So I thought I would give the XOA a try - the free version - as it has the updater and when I go to backups it says I need Starter/Ent/Prem to do Delta backups? Is this the reason the source build won't work? I need the paid thingy??

      To get all the "enterprise" features in XenOrchestra you need to "build it from source". This basically just involves deploying it to a web server.

      The XO Appliance is specifically designed so it is easy for XenOrchestra to support. So they charge you for the support cost and the convenience or having a pre-packaged appliance available.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @hobbit666
        last edited by

        @hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

        Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).

        Did you try giving the VM more space? If that was the issue, just enlarging the filesystem would be the obvious fix. Were there any errors in the logs?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          It sounds as if you are attempting to backup to the XO local drive, and an NFS share.

          The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

            The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.

            Is there any local caching of that data before it goes to the NFS share? Seems unlikely as NFS can mount as a local filesystem and push directly. But it might for performance reasons.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              What does sar on your XO server say about resources during the failure?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

                @DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

                The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.

                Is there any local caching of that data before it goes to the NFS share? Seems unlikely as NFS can mount as a local filesystem and push directly. But it might for performance reasons.

                Not that I am aware of, @olivier would be able to answer that question.

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                • olivierO
                  olivier
                  last edited by

                  Nope, no cache on our side.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

                    Nope, no cache on our side.

                    Where would he look to track down a backup failure?

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller as usual, in xo-server output.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666 @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

                        The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.

                        What i did is install ubuntu 16 to the XenServer Local Storage a 1TB RAID, then in XO setup a "remote" of the NFS share on my WD4000 NAS. Did a test on a small VM (SnipeIT) and that went well. So created a new job and added all my VM's and they error'd the first didn't.

                        But also when i looked at the NAS folder there's nothing in there even if you go to XO restore it shows a restore point.

                        I'm off tomorrow so will play Wednesday and let you know what i find. Will do another new install with XO from sources.

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                        • hobbit666H
                          hobbit666
                          last edited by

                          But after that i thought i would try the XOA and that's where i got confused as i tried a Delta Backup and it said i needed paid version lol.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @hobbit666
                            last edited by

                            @hobbit666 Rather than creating the NFS share from within the VM, do so using the XO web console.

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier @hobbit666
                              last edited by

                              @hobbit666 Just register for the free trial.

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                              • hobbit666H
                                hobbit666
                                last edited by

                                One last problem can't seem to create backup jobs with Edge browser. Can't click the save button.

                                Works fine in Firefox and Chrome.

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  @hobbit666 We are cutting Edge (pun intended).

                                  Official support is for Chrome and FF. We don't have resources to validate on all browser. But, if the issue is well identified we can fix it (like we fixed Safari issue recently). If you have info in your browser console about the issue, paste it here 🙂

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                                  • hobbit666H
                                    hobbit666
                                    last edited by

                                    Just checked and my first backups were all successful onto my NFS Share and I can see some folders there 🙂

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @hobbit666
                                      last edited by

                                      @hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:

                                      Just checked and my first backups were all successful onto my NFS Share and I can see some folders there 🙂

                                      Always nice when the magic happens.

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666
                                        last edited by

                                        OK so new problem this time getting xo-server-transport-email installed and working.

                                        So I've cd to /opt/xo-server where it's installed and ran

                                        root@xenorch:/opt/xo-server# npm install --global xo-server-auth-email

                                        but get this error:-
                                        0_1469800864186_xo-server-email.png

                                        Installed Backup-Reports fine.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @hobbit666
                                          last edited by

                                          @hobbit666 Did you use sudo?

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier
                                            last edited by

                                            It's xo-server-transport-email (not auth). No need to install it globally.

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