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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      OK starting last test.

      backup compress disabled
      Win7 x64 4 GB RAM
      1 GB same switch transfer
      SMB sharing
      2 TB USB 3.0 drive

      Started at 9 AM CDT

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        OK starting last test.

        backup compress disabled
        Win7 x64 4 GB RAM
        1 GB same switch transfer
        SMB sharing
        2 TB USB 3.0 drive

        Started at 9 AM CDT

        I would expect this one to be the same as the last. I doubt you are hitting any kind of bottleneck on the target media.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said:

          I would expect this one to be the same as the last. I doubt you are hitting any kind of bottleneck on the target media.

          Yeah, I'm already seeing that be the case. 2 hours in, 108 GB transferred.

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          • olivierO
            olivier @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender The current title is perfect πŸ™‚ (didn't see the change before)

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @olivier
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              @olivier said:

              @Dashrender The current title is perfect πŸ™‚ (didn't see the change before)

              Maybe Scott edited it before, I haven't changed it since I posted it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @olivier said:

                @Dashrender The current title is perfect πŸ™‚ (didn't see the change before)

                Maybe Scott edited it before, I haven't changed it since I posted it.

                Yeah, that was me πŸ™‚

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said

                  Yeah, I'm already seeing that be the case. 2 hours in, 108 GB transferred.

                  So around 15MBps is the max we can hope for?

                  Is that what you ended up determining?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    I never tested again after this situation. Perhaps when I get back in the office I will try one.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      I'm trying to figure out the quickest way to get a VM from one XS to another.

                      I'll ping @olivier again here, as I am sure XO is part of that discussion.

                      At least if you export it to your desktop you can follow the progress. But it seems like it does compression on the export, right? Is that was was ascertained from this thread?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said in XenServer Export Performance Seems Poor:

                        I'm trying to figure out the quickest way to get a VM from one XS to another.

                        I'll ping @olivier again here, as I am sure XO is part of that discussion.

                        At least if you export it to your desktop you can follow the progress. But it seems like it does compression on the export, right? Is that was was ascertained from this thread?

                        The is a way to do an export without compression. This site is not the easiest to look through on my kindle fire. I thought Oliver posted about it in this thread?

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said

                          The is a way to do an export without compression. This site is not the easiest to look through on my kindle fire. I thought Oliver posted about it in this thread?

                          No, I looked through the whole thread and did not see it.

                          He only mentions turning it off for backups.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
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                            After some research today, I have come to the conclusion (could be wrong) that EXPORT does not compress. I came to this conclusion because a lot of the articles I saw spoke of compressing the export.

                            But it seems like it was said in the thread it IS enabled.

                            So confusing...

                            Take a look at this:
                            https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2009/02/10/xenserver-tips-and-tricks-minimize-the-size-of-your-exported-virtual-machines/

                            "In the interest of not overloading the system that is exporting the virtual machine we don’t compress the data that is exported. So to really save on space after you do an export you can then use your favorite compression program to shrink down the exported file even more. "

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              I also found today the copy through XO is really slow. I wonder why...

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                XO might be doing the compression, and XC might not be doing compression.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  Next week I am going to test everything.

                                  All I know if=s last night when I gave up copying through XO, I was getting out 4-8MBps. A straight export today got me in the 50-60MBps range. Not super fast, but a hell of a lot better. It did 12 GB in around 5 minutes.

                                  I think copy is slow for some reason, but I've looked through so much XS/XO stuff today I can't think anymore.

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier
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                                    XO is activating the compression by default for a VM copy. And because of GZIP and probably a not so fast CPU, the bottleneck is there.

                                    Sadly, we had a choice to make, between faster copy but larger bandwidth usage and the opposite. Changing it is easy, but I have a bad feeling about this (a lot of people not agree with the new choice).

                                    The best would be to have the choice, but it's tricky in term of UI.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @olivier
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                                      @olivier said in XenServer Export Performance Seems Poor:

                                      XO is activating the compression by default for a VM copy. And because of GZIP and probably a not so fast CPU, the bottleneck is there.

                                      Sadly, we had a choice to make, between faster copy but larger bandwidth usage and the opposite. Changing it is easy, but I have a bad feeling about this (a lot of people not agree with the new choice).

                                      The best would be to have the choice, but it's tricky in term of UI.

                                      Didn't there used to be a check box to enable or disable GZIP?

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender For backup yes, not for VM copy.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @olivier
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                                          @olivier

                                          Is there a way to export without compression directly from XS, and bypass XC and XO?

                                          It's not something that happens a lot, but boy those slow speeds are a killer. It adds many hours to a job you;d like to happen as quick as possible.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            Also...

                                            When I did my test export, I was seeing around 5--60 MBps. Not super fast considering it is GB, but not terrible.

                                            When I did the actual export of my shutdown VM, it slowed down to 20MSps or less. Same setup (aka where the export was going).

                                            Is this because of compression?

                                            I also realized it must read every block in the provisioned disk, because it got to a certain point pretty quickly (90GB) and then just sat and sat for over an hour. (The disk is provisioned at 200GB.)

                                            Seems like there are still a lof of unanswered questions here.

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