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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      So the boss just asked me to investigate Oracle VM Server, which is (from a very preliminary search) to be a Fork of Xen Server.

      It's an ancient competitor to XenServer. It's not "bad" but even talking about it is just silly.

      What is going on there? Did you just hire some Oracle fanboy?

      Why would you get Xen from a third party when XenServer comes from the people who make it?

      I know of no upsides to Oracle VM. It's from a time period where different factors existed. It exists today only to service customers already stuck on it.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 thank you, I just type Xen server instinctively.

        @scottalanmiller no Oracle is calling my boss trying to get their foot in the door. I mentioned the very same thing you mentioned, why go to a third party for something we already have.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          I also mentioned that we already have Xen installed, and configured and it's worked great so far besides the array crashing because of a bad disk.

          And then it was mentioned "yeah but that's just VM's this is servers" So I replied "a VM is a VM, lets do a test and export one of our Hyper-V VM's and import it into Xen and see how it runs since it runs horribly at the moment anyways"

          He said that sounds great!

          Of course we're on Hyper-V 08 and I can't export a running VM!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @scottalanmiller no Oracle is calling my boss trying to get their foot in the door. I mentioned the very same thing you mentioned, why go to a third party for something we already have.

            Why would he accept that call? I mean that honestly, what crazy situation would have him talk to them?

            Totally random people just got my number and tried to sell me stuff. Huh, I think the company that I work for should spend time and money investigating products we would never have considered before just because I like the sales guy more than the company I'm paid to protect from sales guys.

            That's the mental conversation I imagine going on leading to this.

            I got a spam email from someone trying to sell me raw lumber or something useless to me this morning. I deleted it instead of researching if I had a use for raw lumber. Right now your boss in investing company resources in trying to aid Oracle.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller As to why he accepted the call I do not know.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                Thx will get started now!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                  Thx will get started now!

                  Um, yeah.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                    Thx will get started now!

                    Um, yeah.

                    hah.. scott you're too funny buddy.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      At least Oracle VM isn't that bad, it's just a silly thing to be discussing.

                      Should we be deploying RHEL 3 today?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller Do you have a need for RHEL 3?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          For what it's worth, I completely agree'd with everything said here about it, why do it? There would be no gain etc.

                          It's all in the OP.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            @scottalanmiller Do you have a need for RHEL 3?

                            Because it is old and pointless, just like Oracle VM is now.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                              Thx will get started now!

                              I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                                Thx will get started now!

                                I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!

                                Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                                  Thx will get started now!

                                  I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!

                                  Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?

                                  omg, I thought I was joking!

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    Really Red Hat Linux 5.0?

                                    SW never ceases to amaze and wonder!

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                                      Thx will get started now!

                                      I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!

                                      Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?

                                      Is that the same as RHEL 5? Because we have one or two of those still.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?

                                        Thx will get started now!

                                        I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!

                                        Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?

                                        Is that the same as RHEL 5? Because we have one or two of those still.

                                        No, the RH series was spent and replaced by the RHEL series. So RHEL 5 is a full five generations after the RH series died off. And RH 5 was nowhere near the end of the line.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          The latest Red Hat Linux release was Red Hat Linux 9 in early 2003. Thirteen years ago!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            RH 5 was the first Red Hat Linux that I used. It released in 1997!! About to turn twenty!

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