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    Needing a bit of a rant, thanks Microsoft!

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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1
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      I feel a need to rant a bit.

      So yesterday I'm typing away on an email when something pops up and steals my mouse cursor focus right before hitting the space bar, and the popup box disappeared. Well. ****. Safe mode, MB scan, combofix, reboot, nothing wrong. Get in this morning to "The internet is down" and my desktop sitting in the Windows 10 initialization window. Rarely have I had the pleasure of a double fu from any vendor, but Microsoft sure managed it this morning.

      At least the internet thing was an easy fix that I was expecting. A hard drive got replaced in the server yesterday, so all the vms were mounted in a read-only file system till the rebuild finished. Shut down all the vms on the host, remounted into rw mode, restarted vms, good to go.

      I've heard way to many nightmare stories about rolling back from 10, so it gets to stay for now. Only glaring issue besides me not wanting this to happen yet is a USB3 card that refuses to load it's driver.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Allowing just anything, anywhere to grab keyboard and mouse inputs without the user being aware or allowing it has long been a massive interface snafu and enormous security vulnerability in Windows. That crap happens constantly, you are doing one task and something you were not aware of pops up, never fully comes on screen, takes the input (very often a password) and vanishes immediately. And all you were doing was writing a document or whatever. Or worse, in the process of logging into something so critical security data is what was entered into whatever that thing was.

        I'm unclear what interface design challenges have led Microsoft to make the desktop behave this way and why it is never fixed. It is the Windows API allowing this to happen. Allowing something that the user does not control grab focus whenever and wherever it wants.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

            The degree to which Windows 10 lags behind late 1990s Linux desktops in stability is crazy. I've yet to have a Linux desktop lose control so dramatically that you can't get to a command line and kill the process causing the issue. In Windows 10, I expect in several times a day!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said:

              At least the internet thing was an easy fix that I was expecting. A hard drive got replaced in the server yesterday,.....

              Windows Software RAID then?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Scott - are you on an upgrade or a clean install?

                If a clean install, do I assume correctly that you have the 1511 update? (Which is more like an upgrade than and update).

                I just installed my first pure 1511 last night as a base for my new images. Not sure how it's going to go yet.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                  It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

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                    Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

                    The search part of the start button breaks often.

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

                      The degree to which Windows 10 lags behind late 1990s Linux desktops in stability is crazy. I've yet to have a Linux desktop lose control so dramatically that you can't get to a command line and kill the process causing the issue. In Windows 10, I expect in several times a day!

                      Really? We aren't having any of those issues around here. I have been on Windows 10 for months now and since going live I haven't had those issues.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by travisdh1

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @travisdh1 said:

                        At least the internet thing was an easy fix that I was expecting. A hard drive got replaced in the server yesterday,.....

                        Windows Software RAID then?

                        That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM. Getting firewall rules to prevent the local box from communicating on the WAN interface was one of those fun learning experiences. Now it'd take me minutes instead of an hour.

                        It was very annoying having to go through all that "Microsoft will collect all the data" settings before being able to hit putty and get the raid fixed.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Scott - are you on an upgrade or a clean install?

                          Clean

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            If a clean install, do I assume correctly that you have the 1511 update?
                            Yup

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM.

                              XenServer?

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM.

                                XenServer?

                                That one is the old ProxMox. The latest server is XenServer. The remaining proxmox box will be moved to XenServer as well. Time to actually do it is the sticking point.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                                  It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                                  OK so no domain currently - ok I feel better.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                                    It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                                    You want to setup a domain for 2 Windows computers? Using a Linux distro as a Domain controller I hope? $800+ seems like a lot to spend if you were thinking a Windows Server for just two Windows machines.

                                    As for file server, what's wrong with a NAS or standing up an Owncloud box. Owncloud will be safer - less risk of Cryptolocker problems.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                                      It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                                      You want to setup a domain for 2 Windows computers? Using a Linux distro as a Domain controller I hope? $800+ seems like a lot to spend if you were thinking a Windows Server for just two Windows machines.

                                      As for file server, what's wrong with a NAS or standing up an Owncloud box. Owncloud will be safer - less risk of Cryptolocker problems.

                                      Zentyal actually. Business wise because most of the users jump between computers all the time and it's so much easier to make file shares follow them around with an authentication server. Also for my piece of mind because I'll probably be changing jobs in the next 1-2 years and it'll be a lot easier for someone else to manage. (Most likely an MSP, but they'd need to be able to send someone in which is going to be the stumbling block.)

                                      Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                        Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @travisdh1 said:

                                          Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                          Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

                                          Wayne/Holmes Counties Ohio

                                          We've lost the largest Amish population in the US title I think.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                            Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

                                            Wayne/Holmes Counties Ohio

                                            We've lost the largest Amish population in the US title I think.

                                            Ah cool. My Bucks County family migrated to Stark County, Ohio. So I'm familiar there too. I'm in Canton a few time a year, typically.

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