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    Dicussion about time, DST and businesses hours of operation

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      but why not? Probably just because they are cheap and predate natural light laws. No reason that you can't have light in offices.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        but why not? Probably just because they are cheap and predate natural light laws. No reason that you can't have light in offices.

        I would agree with both those points and add that they generally have offices in the center of buildings with patient rooms around the out sides. On multi-story buildings this would make it difficult to properly use the space where natural light is required.

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        • DashrenderD
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          but why not? Probably just because they are cheap and predate natural light laws. No reason that you can't have light in offices.

          Cheap - I guess, building efficiency is what really springs to mind. The clinic rooms line the outside of the given space, and they probably have windows. The staff work in the middle area.

          It's no different than an office building. The offices along the outer walls all have natural light, assuming those offices have non tranparent/translucent walls, the light never makes it to cube ville in the middle.

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            Office buildings normally have glass interior walls for this purpose, though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              But outside of patient areas or operating rooms, how often is extra light needed? Or much light? Isn't bright offices counter productive to working on a computer?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                But outside of patient areas or operating rooms, how often is extra light needed? Or much light? Isn't bright offices counter productive to working on a computer?

                lol - I don't have an answer for you... I know that when I work in the dark, don't often have the option for low surrounding light, people give me a hard time for working in the dark.

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                • scottalanmillerS
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                  Which makes no sense, because it is better for your eyes, heat, environment and work habits to be in the dark, or not in the bright, at least. People are so weird with their bizarre societal constructs of what acceptable is, even when it is completely counter to what makes sense.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    But outside of patient areas or operating rooms, how often is extra light needed? Or much light? Isn't bright offices counter productive to working on a computer?

                    lol - I don't have an answer for you... I know that when I work in the dark, don't often have the option for low surrounding light, people give me a hard time for working in the dark.

                    I prefer to work in the dark. Which generally gets a few comments.

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                    • DashrenderD
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                      And to this discussion, I'm reminded that I have under cabinet lights in my office... they are now on and the overhead lights are now off.

                      Let's see how this goes.

                      The one thing I don't like the about the under cabinet lights so far is that I can directly see the lights as they are only 1 ft higher than eye line and to the right and front of me.
                      Time to find some defusing panels.

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                      • Minion QueenM
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                        I HATE fluorescent lights. I hate the dark as well but love natural light, my dad has seasonal affective disorder, I think I might too. Without natural light I get depressed. We have talked about changing out the fluorescent light in my office for an LED light. I hope that will help. Otherwise I am working in a cave.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          I love light from behind my monitor lighting up the wall behind it.

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                          • Minion QueenM
                            Minion Queen
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                            I should try that.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I love light from behind my monitor lighting up the wall behind it.

                              that would be weird in an office.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                I love light from behind my monitor lighting up the wall behind it.

                                that would be weird in an office.

                                Not if the monitor is against a wall. If it is against a window, yeah. It provides the softest light with the least on the screen itself. Makes total sense in a darker office.

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                                • StrongBadS
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                                  DST is just silly. And who even knows when it happens anymore? Is it this coming weekend? That the "special" shifted time is most of the year makes no sense. That means that really the US now has "winter time" when we make the time.... especially impractical?

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                                  • DashrenderD
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                                    This is how my office looks now..
                                    yep it's a mess.

                                    office.jpg

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      This is how my office looks now..
                                      yep it's a mess.

                                      office.jpg

                                      That looks good. If it were me I would just have the single light behind your monitors on.

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                                      • DashrenderD
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                                        That's the one that is within eye site more than the one directly to the right.

                                        Also, to do that, my only option would be to remote the bulb, they are on the same switch. No power switch on the light itself.

                                        I'm also guessing it would be to dark to write notes, etc if I killed that light.

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                                        • IRJI
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                                          As mentioned earlier, farmers and outdoor activities follow actual sun light not time so DST doesn't make a difference for them.

                                          DST causes health issues and it's proven to create alot of stress. I can also tell you that it wreaks havoc on infants and toddlers that don't have a concept of time. They are used to just working on sunlight so getting them up an hour earlier or later really effects them in a negative way.

                                          That just goes to show that it isn't natural.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
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                                            And it is an embarrassment to countries and cultures that do it. Let me tell you, in the third world they laugh about how backwards those doing DST are and how silly they are for changing their clocks and getting confused instead of just "doing things at the right time."

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