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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Scott, considering the other thread, what type of windows license do you need to run a windows server in C@C?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Scott, considering the other thread, what type of windows license do you need to run a windows server in C@C?

        There is none that lets you.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          Scott, considering the other thread, what type of windows license do you need to run a windows server in C@C?

          There is none that lets you.

          So for Cloud based Windows servers, you're only option is to rent the OS from the Cloud provider? like Rackspace $10/month/machine?

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          • ?
            A Former User
            last edited by

            azure

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            • ?
              A Former User
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              Here's more info on that type of licencing. http://bit.ly/1FxIRTP

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                So for Cloud based Windows servers, you're only option is to rent the OS from the Cloud provider? like Rackspace $10/month/machine?

                Correct. The price is baked in so just compare someone's CentOS to Windows offerings of the same specs to see what the price difference is. It's the only licensing model for this sort of thing.

                Just like how Windows 8 on a VM requires VDI. Special cases means special licensing from MS.

                Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                  @Hubtech said:

                  azure

                  ?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

                    It is?

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                      A Former User @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

                      It is?

                      Yep. And Red Hat licensing is actually worse than Windows Server.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        Yep. And Red Hat licensing is actually worse than Windows Server.

                        Not really, it comes with awesome support. Windows you just pay to have the right to be unsupported.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

                          It is?

                          Yes, global workloads are shifting to open source at an unbelievable pace. The cloud is the primary driver. Licensing for things like Windows is so much more dramatic to today's businesses than it used to be.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

                            It is?

                            Would, keeping open source as easy as it always was but making everything else so much harder, make more sense?

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              Yep. And Red Hat licensing is actually worse than Windows Server.

                              Not really, it comes with awesome support. Windows you just pay to have the right to be unsupported.

                              lol. True. The right to be unsupported.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                Yep. And Red Hat licensing is actually worse than Windows Server.

                                Not really, it comes with awesome support. Windows you just pay to have the right to be unsupported.

                                lol. True. The right to be unsupported.

                                The Red Hat equivalent to Windows is...... CentOS. Microsoft doesn't even have a RHEL equivalent offering.

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                                  A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Same with Red Hat. If you want RHEL, you need it through the cloud provider, you can't bring your own. Only the free, open source OSes transparently work in a cloud setting. The cloud is making open source so much easier to use.

                                  It is?

                                  Yes, global workloads are shifting to open source at an unbelievable pace. The cloud is the primary driver. Licensing for things like Windows is so much more dramatic to today's businesses than it used to be.

                                  There's big pushes to get linux to a centrally controllable system much like group policy even for local deplyoments. FreeIPA has the authentication part down but is suppose to be working on the rest. http://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page

                                  Samaba 4 was suppose to be into this as well.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Just use Chef or whatever.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Just use Chef or whatever.

                                      Not really the same thing. Great for cloud and servers. Not good for end users machines.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Just use Chef or whatever.

                                        Not really the same thing. Great for cloud and servers. Not good for end users machines.

                                        Is that really true? What aspect of it do you find really that different than GPO? I can do pretty similar things with both. Not identical, obviously.

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                                          A Former User
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                                          You're basically having to program everything. It's more like a poorly implemented SCCM than it is group policy. If you want the GUI with Puppet it will cost you quiet a bit.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            You're basically having to program everything. It's more like a poorly implemented SCCM than it is group policy. If you want the GUI with Puppet it will cost you quiet a bit.

                                            True, but often programming things makes things easier in the long run. And there are tons of recipes already available. So you can do a lot with Chef without writing your own stuff.

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